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15 Mar 2018, 5:12 am

Fairies, leprechauns and the like are just names people came up with for extraterrestrials.

Fairy rings = crop circles = aliens.



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15 Mar 2018, 8:16 am

They're made by clowns.



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15 Mar 2018, 3:49 pm

Yeah.

What happened to the "clown sightings" of a couple years ago?

Is that still a thing? Or did the phenom go away?



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15 Mar 2018, 4:06 pm

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Yeah.

What happened to the "clown sightings" of a couple years ago?

Is that still a thing? Or did the phenom go away?


Their leader was elected president.


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15 Mar 2018, 5:26 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Yeah.

What happened to the "clown sightings" of a couple years ago?

Is that still a thing? Or did the phenom go away?


Their leader was elected president.

:lol:



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15 Mar 2018, 7:21 pm

^ If only that wasn't the blatant truth! :|


The clowns though, they weren't real clowns. They were paranormal entities with a malicious agenda. They tried to take over. It's true, I saw a YouTube video about it. I swear it wasn't a creepypasta, it was a true story.


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15 Mar 2018, 7:51 pm

Fairies are real; here’s the incontrovertible evidence:

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Matter settled.


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15 Mar 2018, 8:22 pm

^ But what is that? Is it (literally) Fairy juice?


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15 Mar 2018, 8:27 pm

Skilpadde wrote:
^ If only that wasn't the blatant truth! :|


The clowns though, they weren't real clowns. They were paranormal entities with a malicious agenda. They tried to take over. It's true, I saw a YouTube video about it. I swear it wasn't a creepypasta, it was a true story.


Actual Footage of a Creepy Clown in its Natural Habitat
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15 Mar 2018, 9:38 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Yeah.

What happened to the "clown sightings" of a couple years ago?

Is that still a thing? Or did the phenom go away?


Their leader was elected president.


:) :D :lol: :thumright:



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15 Mar 2018, 9:47 pm

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I haven't google this much but wasn't it established that crop circles in fields were simply made by people with way too much time on their hands by using a pivet and rope or length of wood?


Some of them were found to have been created by fraudsters, but most of them are genuine (i.e. 'genuine' in the sense that their cause remains to be explained, not manmade, nothing to do with pranksters with "too much time on their hands").


How can a crop circle "remain unexplained"?

It's pretty easy to make a crop circle just by pushing the grain over. That's why they're so common.

People "find them mysterious" because people are hoping that aliens will come and save humanity from its problems.


Except that's not how they're made. The usual method of "debunking" this phenomenon is to use a wooden plank with string attached, and to press down the grain (or grass or whatever) by going in a circle, but this just doesn't work for even the simplest of designs (i.e. circles) because the process causes breaks in the stems. Examination of the evidence after the appearance of a design within the wheatfield (and do recall that the vast majority are rather more complicated than just simple circles) shows that the grain/wheat/whatever was subjected to heat. That is, they were bent, not snapped at the base.

I actually do not believe they are the work of aliens. I don't even believe in the existence of aliens. You are, as usual, just talking rubbish when you claim that people like me hope for some kind of alien salvation. Tell me, are the following designs just circles, or do they look far more complicated to you?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=crop ... 80&bih=944



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17 Mar 2018, 8:25 am

Actual photographs of a particular fairy:



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17 Mar 2018, 10:33 am

I think it's really super-common for people to engage in really sloppy, and even superstitious thinking. We only tend to call it the later on a content basis but the fundamental principles are there just as much there when the fairies are absent and it can relate to beliefs about science, consciousness, politics, and all kinds of other things - and unfortunately the later tend not to fall under quite as much scrutiny.

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Except that's not how they're made. The usual method of "debunking" this phenomenon is to use a wooden plank with string attached, and to press down the grain (or grass or whatever) by going in a circle, but this just doesn't work for even the simplest of designs (i.e. circles) because the process causes breaks in the stems. Examination of the evidence after the appearance of a design within the wheatfield (and do recall that the vast majority are rather more complicated than just simple circles) shows that the grain/wheat/whatever was subjected to heat. That is, they were bent, not snapped at the base.

I think that's a good example of where people are so committed to their viewpoints that one can't even get the air cleared on what the actual facts are. Consequently if something tantamount to an Escher shows up in the middle of a field and there's heat-warping and nanodiamonds or whatever in the stalks you have these idiots suggesting that three guys came out in the wee hours with wooden planks and made perfect artwork of several acres in the matter of a couple hours.

The strange belief seems to be that if it isn't men (or men and women, men women and theys, etc.) with wood planks and rope then it's either green men or God. Even if it were all man-made the people who are pushing that explanation are the worst people to explain anything to anyone, ie. they're generally the kinds of churls who jump to the side of whatever looks like the most popular or salient viewpoint of the time and use that as a place from which to lambaste anyone whose different - that is they're not high quality thinkers at all, they're just borrowing the authority of high-quality thinkers for their own purposes.

I think it's by that sort of mechanism that fake news survives - ie. the maverick and outsider types for as few as they are will often be of rare high quality because they have to be to survive (a great example is to consider what kinds of things Jacques Vallee would have to say on the crop circles, most people would pretend he didn't say it and ask him to talk more about computer science which is his other core competency), reality is messy enough that you can make very compelling arguments from almost anywhere, so their content - even if wrong - will tend to be high quality and, for the slop on the other side, tends not to get anything close to the quality of criticism that would be needed to make it go away. Also this means that if it turns out that their right - no one will know because no one was willing to take a serious shot at their arguments and see if they held up. The orthodoxy will generally be saturated with posers to the point that the whole edifice will start looking as coherent and scientific as VICE or Buzzfeed, Bill Nye might make a few passing jokes, at best someone like Massimo Pigliucci might chime in and say that he's never researched the topic but as far as he can tell they're BS (we appreciate his candor in admitting he hasn't), and from there no coherent dialectic can even be had because orthodoxy can't get together the right people to make their opponent's best case and dismantle it.


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17 Mar 2018, 12:30 pm

There are some faiths that regard such entities as "faeries" as "real" to them. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this similar to the "djinn" from the muslem faith? Don't christians have angels, cherubim, seraphim, and a satan
type with satan type followers? Are they ALL engaged in "really sloppy superstitious thinking"? No one ever felt
looked after, or said "I must have a guardian angel"?
To me we all came from the energy of the universe, are made from the same stuff, living in it, and when we aren't living in it don't we go "back" to it? Does it matter in which way this energy revealed itself to whoever? Does it have to be the same? Add the intellectual concept that the universe is infinite and eternal (our local view now has a believed 200 billion stars in our galaxy and believed 2,000,000,000 galaxies)(and btw 2700 odd of our nearest stars have 3700 odd planets going around them) - then isn't that what some, by different names call God, Allah,
Goddess and God of Love or whatever? Then it's people who dress this in superstition and bend it for their will or to have a laugh over, when actually more or less, things are as in the subject Post - and this viewpoint presents them as real. Anyway to me the faerie ring is psilocybin semilanceata!



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17 Mar 2018, 1:35 pm

peaceandharmony1 wrote:
There are some faiths that regard such entities as "faeries" as "real" to them. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this similar to the "djinn" from the muslem faith? Don't christians have angels, cherubim, seraphim, and a satan
type with satan type followers? Are they ALL engaged in "really sloppy superstitious thinking"? No one ever felt
looked after, or said "I must have a guardian angel"?
To me we all came from the energy of the universe, are made from the same stuff, living in it, and when we aren't living in it don't we go "back" to it? Does it matter in which way this energy revealed itself to whoever? Does it have to be the same? Add the intellectual concept that the universe is infinite and eternal (our local view now has a believed 200 billion stars in our galaxy and believed 2,000,000,000 galaxies)(and btw 2700 odd of our nearest stars have 3700 odd planets going around them) - then isn't that what some, by different names call God, Allah,
Goddess and God of Love or whatever? Then it's people who dress this in superstition and bend it for their will or to have a laugh over, when actually more or less, things are as in the subject Post - and this viewpoint presents them as real. Anyway to me the faerie ring is psilocybin semilanceata!


Sounds like you were ON psilocybin mushrooms when you wrote this. :lol: