What would Islamic Europe look like?

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Probably no place I would want to live. I do not like restrictions on my agency, freedom of movement, or clothing choices. I would not want to live in a country where I couldn't step out of the house and take a walk and enjoy the nice weather without my father or husband or son's permission. I would not want to live someplace where it's considered inappropriate for me to play sports or socialize with men or do harmless things that would be just fine for me to do if I were male.

I think there could be two very different scenarios with very different outcomes:
1. Islam gains popularity until it is a dominating religion in Europe. This would likely mean adaptation to many aspects of European culture, with peaceful coexistence with other beliefs, women's rights, etc.
2. Europe is conquered by islamic state(s). That would likely mean terror and persecution.

... and neither of them are likely. I was being sarcastic in my original post.



This is highly unlikely. Europe will likely become more atheistic as time goes on.



This is even less likely. The mighty US military would undoubtedly step in to save Europe if it were ever under attack by an Islamic state.

A lot of immigrants are Muslim Brotherhood cronies who are not welcomed in their originated countries, yet for some reason so welcomed in the UK.

We are happy to ditch such garbage.

I dunno if you know something I don't, the only two political parties who openly wished for Sharia were Hezbollah and Jamaa Islamiya - Hezbollah abandoned this policy though since it allied with Christians and the Jamaa el Islamiya is an unpopular tiny sunnite party with 1 seat only in Parliament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamen ... n_of_seats


Demographically speaking, Eastern Beirut is still predominantly, almost totally, Christian - Mosques have no existence there, just Churches : ). I don't know the numbers for beirut but nationwide Christians are 40.5% of the population.

I do have some Lebanese guys I do martial arts with and they mentioned that it's amazing how Lebanon works right now and how they've been able to take on even something like 600,000 refugees and still make everything work. What i get from them is there's a coalition government, all parties at the table, and everyone's decided it's in their best interest to keep peace and mutual understandings, but it did come at the cost of fifteen years of civil war.


I think what I was indicating was my concern that as Islam makes headway into brand new territory, especially a culture that doesn't have much of an immune response to Islamism (the way Europe is looking right now), the religious radicals take an interest in ideological colonization. Assimilation fails when the pace of immigration accelerates to where the new arrivals can self-segregate and when those bubbles get big enough those areas start looking like pockets of their home countries. As far as I can tell it would take a moderate Muslim government or something of the like to repel this kind of thing, ie. they're used to it and can see it from a mile away. In the US I think we're less prone to it because we haul preachers to jail of any religion if they start calling for sedition or anything of that sort so while we may not quite 'get it' we at least had an eye on it with our various competing Christian sects through the course of our history.

I think Europe will be very different in a couple decades. It might be possible for things to still be peaceful by and large from then till now but the culture and political orientation of the people will probably be very different. At a minimum they'll look back on 'critical correctness at all costs' like they caught a fatal case of the dumbs but pulled out and survived it by some miracle.

The west is funny, we've gladly propped up secular dictatorships that brutalize Islamists (along with everyone else who dissents), but also gladly accepted said Islamists as refugees from the tyranny that we're supporting.

That experiment has already been conducted. Islam absorbing a large areas outside of the middle east. And no such thing happened.

Most of the Muslim world is already outside of the Middle East even in our timeline. The biggest population majority Muslim countries are Indonesia, Malaysia, and Bangladesh. All in southeast asia, far from the middle east. The Muslim minority in India is larger than entire populations of Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey, combined. Yet Islam is pretty much the same religion everywhere from the west coast of Africa to the southern Phillipines. Most of schisms within Islam are in the middle east itself. Not in Africa nor in east asia. So there is no reason to think that a Muslim Europe would have split off into a sect that was so far out that it would be in opposition to the Islam of the rest of the planet (including the middle east). And there are enclaves of Islam already in Europe (Albania, Chechenia, parts of Yugoslavia, etc. There is nothing peculiarly European about the type of Islam practiced in those ethnic enclaves in Europe.

In terms of religion, maybe.
In terms of society and politics the Islam in different parts of the world differs significantly.
I would think of it as likely that Europeans would adopt Mohamed's teachings but not integrate with the Caliphate well. What would be the outcome of this? Maybe the trade would be better but I'm sure wars would be inevitable.

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