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LoveNotHate
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15 Jun 2018, 9:34 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:

All I asked for, on another forum, was why americans would elect a Russian-supported agent as president, who makes friends with brutal dictatorships like North Korea. The thread was deleted immediately.

The number one reason cited for liking Trump is because he upsets "elites" (people who seek to control you/tell you how to live).

All "negatives" might be positives for "teflon Don", because some "elite" will whine about how Trump is upsetting them and that brings smiles to Trump supporters.

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15 Jun 2018, 9:35 pm

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I believe Trump wants to limit the rights inherent in Freedom of the Press, and various other rights guaranteed under the Bill of Rights.

Ultimately, though, the fine foundation which is known as the Constitution will foil his plans.

Left Don’t seem to care when they stripping gun rights. This is what we’ve said all along, if you think one right can be stripped and if ignored be prepared for all the others, might as well burn the constitution and say politicians and rich can do what they please to the rest of us.

Nobody is coming to take guns away.

People (including military and others who own guns) are calling for a more complex background check. That is all.

No they demand a assault weapons ban
High capacity magazine ban
Ammo bans
Extremely high taxes on guns and ammo

Even the background they demand would make people felons for shooting guns with their friend in the woods, which is why it was voted down.

They calling to ban and take simi auto guns so yes they are coming to take guns. I may very well have to give mine in on January if anti gun people in my state get their way like other states have done.

We call for a automatic transmission car ban, but we aren’t taking cars we just taking all cars with a automatic transmission (so 80% of cars owned)

Does that example explain it?
Taking a single gun is taking guns

Forgot they also admit non of those would do a single thing to stop mass shootings. It’ll have zero effect

Except that one who shot 17 people in the highschool would not have been able to purchase his gun if they had run a proper background check. If he hadn't been allowed to purchase the gun it would have been much harder for him to commit the shooting.

Also the second amendment does not say 'guns can never be taken away for any reason ever'.

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15 Jun 2018, 10:11 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Who are these "elites" supposed to be?

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16 Jun 2018, 1:02 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Who are these "elites" supposed to be?

Rich, powerful, connected business and political people.

Remember Michael Moore ... "Trump is the biggest F-You ...to the elites"

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16 Jun 2018, 1:51 am

So people were all upset because they were afraid trump was going to start ww3 with kim, and now they're upset because trump and kim are getting along? haha whatever.

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16 Jun 2018, 12:41 pm

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So people were all upset because they were afraid trump was going to start ww3 with kim, and now they're upset because trump and kim are getting along? haha whatever.

That is the derangement syndrome for you. I am not saying that there were not legitimate arguments that he was too dangerous before or too appeasing now or both.

For Trump to be reelected what has too happen is what happened to get him elected in the first place, have enough people in the right places believe the dems are just if not more deranged then he is. People think I am deranged but I am seeing evidence that this is happining. Most people think avoiding war is a good thing and unless we get obvoiusly badly snookered this can only help him politically which is why he did it.

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16 Jun 2018, 3:28 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Who are these "elites" supposed to be?

Rich, powerful, connected business and political people.

Remember Michael Moore ... "Trump is the biggest F-You ...to the elites"

Few business elites are to the left, and about half of the political elites are conservative. Not to mention how Trump told said business elites that with his tax cuts he's just made them richer.
Seems to me that much of those elites are his buddies.

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17 Jun 2018, 3:03 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Why do american/U.S. political forums (I'm not talking WP) systematically delete anti-Trump threads?

Has it become illegal in the U.S. to say anything negative about your president?

All I asked for, on another forum, was why americans would elect a Russian-supported agent as president, who makes friends with brutal dictatorships like North Korea. The thread was deleted immediately.

Trump himself deletes negative comments about him too on social media.

Maybe you posted on a Conservative forum?

Also, are you an American? If not, maybe it was that they don't want non-Americans saying what they consider is a bad thing to say about our president.

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17 Jun 2018, 4:37 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Spooky_Mulder wrote:

sly279 wrote:

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Nobody is coming to take guns away.

People (including military and others who own guns) are calling for a more complex background check. That is all.

He passed his background check because the fbi, sheriff, and local police turned a blind eye to boost stats for federal funding. He also used the very 10 round mags your side claims wouldn’t have prevented his shooting.

It says shall not be infringed which means zero natta none no restriction.
Infringe: act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.
Shall not means don’t do it.
So shall not be infringed means don’t do any acts to limit or undermine.

As Hillary Clinton said, any right you need to ask permission to use isn’t a right at all.

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17 Jun 2018, 4:39 pm

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So people were all upset because they were afraid trump was going to start ww3 with kim, and now they're upset because trump and kim are getting along? haha whatever.

The left is so hypocritical they do these flip flops every day. If he didn’t meet with Kim they’d be slamming him for starting wars and refusing to try peace with Kim.

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17 Jun 2018, 4:41 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Who are these "elites" supposed to be?

Rich, powerful, connected business and political people.

Remember Michael Moore ... "Trump is the biggest F-You ...to the elites"

90% of billionaires and businesses are to the left. Few who maybe aren’t is oil and coal companies. All tech companies, all retail companies, all coffeee companies etc are left leaning.

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17 Jun 2018, 9:48 pm

sly279 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

thinkinginpictures wrote:

Who are these "elites" supposed to be?

Rich, powerful, connected business and political people.

Remember Michael Moore ... "Trump is the biggest F-You ...to the elites"

90% of billionaires and businesses are to the left. Few who maybe aren’t is oil and coal companies. All tech companies, all retail companies, all coffeee companies etc are left leaning.

And many - not all mind you - of those left leaning businesses behave decently enough. Starbucks - with the exception of that "incident" - is well behaved, as are many tech companies. As for retail companies - - Walmart and Kmart are hardly left leaning, and they rip off their employees regularly, and sell consumers shoddy products.

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17 Jun 2018, 9:51 pm

The media is being critical of the Trump/Kim bromance because all of a sudden Trump has forgotten about Kim's mass murder and mass starvation. He seems to enjoy courting dictators all the while treating our longtime friends as enemies.

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17 Jun 2018, 10:22 pm

I personally believe you should always respect our Lord and Savior, which is The President. No matter who it is.
Whether he makes decisions that the majority of the people agree with or not, you should never diss Donald Trump, especially if the media makes it OK.

Why is it that OBAMA, who was a full-blown Liberal, was always respected and adored by the media but a hardcore Conservative is dissed by the media?

Cos we have grown into the most Liberal society in history, dissing Conservatives and all other political parties for their beliefs different from theirs.

The country is messed up, and he is merely trying to fix the country, even if he's doing it in ways those sissy hothead Liberals don't agree-- no, REFUSE to agree with.

Screw Liberals! Go Conservatives!
Screw lies! Go truth!

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17 Jun 2018, 10:30 pm

GuyInABlackSuit wrote:

/\ I honestly can’t tell if this post is serious or mocking Trump supporters through comical and brilliant satire.

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17 Jun 2018, 10:31 pm

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It was because Obama was an educated, well spoken gentleman, whereas Trump is a vulgar, barely literate, racist conman who has been described by his business school teachers as being dumb as a stump.
If you're against lies, then you should be against claims that millions of illegals had voted for Clinton, or that Trump had gotten the largest inauguration on record, or that there was no collusion with Putin, or that Trump University was on the up and up, or a host of other "alternative" facts.

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