Just found out there’s a movement called political lesbian

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you can take out of context and cherry-pick things to prove a point. i'm not saying all feminists are correct and reasonable, but i'm saying that this sort of criticism manipulates informations to force a point.

man and woman have different place in society, there is no symmetry here. calling men enemy belongs to a very specific context. men are responsible for the majority of violence in the world, which includes violence against woman. so, yes, in a generic approach, as a class, i find ok to call men the enemy.

why would women be the enemy? in which context could someone affirm it?

political lesbianism isn't forcing anyone to do anything – radical feminists don't hold enough power to it. but it just sheds light on a political aspect of our sexuality. woman ARE forced to be straight. it's the mainstream option. a lot of girls are unable to consider other option, rethink our sexuality is relevant, and is relevant in a political context as woman are often victims of sexual or domestic abuse.

Come on, honestly. Don't you believe that someone calling a woman who dates men a "traitor" is a little extreme?

I'm not cherry-picking. I just feel this is a position that very few women take. And I don't feel it's a position taken with a lot of thought.

I feel if a woman wants to be a lesbian, go right ahead....if a guy wants to be gay, go right ahead. I'm a straight man. I don't believe everybody has to be straight. It's peoples' choice, and peoples' biology.

it is a lot extreme. but this isn't the core of political lesbianism, that's what i'm saying. they take some extreme and a bit dumb version of it to criticize because it's easy. but nobody really goes to understand what it is about and where it comes from.

i'm not saying people should support it. it's controversial even among feminists. but it's not this crazy idea as people put.

I don't see anything wrong with lesbian advocacy at all. They have to advocate for themselves; and others should advocate for them as well. All lesbianism means is that a woman is attracted to other women.

I judge individuals based on individual features. There are certainly "political lesbians" who do not advocate extreme positions. All that "political lesbian" might mean is that somebody is a lesbian and is political, too (in general).

I don't think of women as being the "enemy." I wouldn't want a woman to think "men" are the enemy, too. I feel that only individual men who have done harm to them should be the "enemy." Not some random guy on the street.

and it's just so disrespectful to say that lesbians who want to define their sexuality as a political choice are the same as conservatives who say that sexuality is a choice. it's such a different discourse, it's coming from a very different place.

As long as they don't denigrate men (unless the man deserves it) or denigrate me, I'm okay with it.

I wouldn't take kindly to some woman (or some man) calling me an "oppressor" merely because I'm a man.

if you notice how often woman are victim of violence committed by man, then you understand how being positive about some random guy on the street is a luxury.

I've been bullied and beaten up by black guys, many times. I don't think some random black guy on the street is the "enemy."

I was molested by a gay guy. He wouldn't let me go. I don't feel some random gay guy in the street, is the "enemy."

I respect what you say, by the way.

Fittingly enough I saw the exact same video earlier on today. Previously I was oftentimes confused at the misconception of all lesbians hating men, but when I first came across the term political lesbian it started to make sense where this stereotype had come from.

Unfortunately, I believe that some of the more radical extreme political lesbians promote misconceptions regarding sexuality. I also find that they don't seem to address the fact that domestic abuse occurs within homosexual relationships as well as heterosexual ones.

Some mistakenly believe that abuse is only done by straight men to straight women, but this is not the case. In reality, anyone can be an abuser in any kind of relationship, and the abuse can be physical but it can also be psychological depending on each individual circumstance.

Domestic abuse still occurs within lesbian relationships, and seemingly little is done to address this by such groups. The way they talk about it you may incorrectly assume that lesbian relationships automatically mean utopian style perfection, but that isn't true. No relationship is entirely perfect, not even healthy ones because perfection isn't real. We live in a flawed world. That's OK.

I do not believe my sexual orientation to be a political choice, since I never chose my attractions. When I first starting coming out to people I always found it annoying if anyone said something among the lines of "Oh, well it's your choice" because simply put it isn't a choice. I didn't wake up one day and decide to be gay. That's not how it works.

Back when I first started having crushes, I was actually in denial for a few years and struggled to come to terms with it through all the self-loathing that I was experiencing. Unfortunately I had heard some not so pleasant things about homosexuality, so it took some time to work through all my emotions and eventually come to a better understanding of what it truly meant.

Sure, you can choose whether you want to act on your attractions, but you can't choose what attractions you have. A person can also date someone regardless of whether they like them, so in that sense it is a choice. However, for example, I dated a gay guy in school to avoid homophobia and he also dated me for the same reason. Does that make me straight? Personally, I don't believe so.

Unfortunately for him when he did come out later on he got beaten up by his so called friends for it. Full on thrown into a wall and beaten. Thankfully people are more accepting of him now.

Being straight is not a choice, neither is being gay or bisexual or asexual, or whatever else. It rather gets on my nerves when people claim it as such.

Lmao that s**t is even on their wiki page, I checked before coming here. You are utterly ridiculous, but I guess it's sort of understandable from someone who feels offended even by something fun and unharmful like peaceful ethical festivals.

Way a nice way to spread love and peace, let's call a guy the enemy because some jerks with similar genitalia do bad things! Let's tell girls that they shouldn't be in relationships with him because he is the enemy!

You talk like almost every guy in the street practices domestic violence, as if we were a bunch of psycho lunatics and wife-beaters.

Let me remind you of the TOS: it's against the rules to say generic statements of this sort. It's also against the rules to post provocations like this, attacking the whole gender. It can only lead to flame wars, as it's happening here.

I've never experienced anything like that, nor have I witnessed anything of the sort, I'm really tempted to close this thread now, since this is getting out of hand.

Dude... let’s have a beer.

If you want to lock this thread by this logic, then you should also lock all threads about incels as well.

And oh, you must also ban the user who keeps taking of “parralels” between incels and single guys here.

So if you want to play Judge Dredd then be so with everyone.

I think they would use sperm banks for reproduction; make some men cum in tubes and then kill them off- that’s their utopia .

Due to the flame wars and due to the fact that this thread got reported, with the OP's permission, I'm closing it.

If however, anyone would object, feel free to PM me, and we'll see what can be done.