27 Jun 2018, 9:27 am
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I just thought of something. Imagine if neo-Platonists were as devout as Christian fundamentalists. 
I mean, Platonism can be dangerous because Plato was anti-democracy … but you almost never see neo-Platonists argue "The World of Forms is real! Humans are closely related to birds! I'm super serial!"
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28 Jun 2018, 3:35 am
28 Jun 2018, 6:47 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Are you implying that the Christian scholars translate the bible wrong?
Tell me where in the Bible Satan is called Lucifer and I take it back. The Jews know their book better I think.
Btw OP there is something like "spreads the heavens" or something like that, one example is in Retro's post too.
Btw, do you know that the Quran Satan is a Jinni (the first being created from fire vs Adam created from clay) - and not a fallen angel?
The Quranic Satan
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28 Jun 2018, 6:50 am
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30 Jun 2018, 5:53 am
30 Jun 2018, 6:37 am
Peacesells wrote:
Fnord wrote:
"This is what God the LORD says-- the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out, who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it" -- Isaiah 42:5
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
The question would be, did the ancient Jews have a better verb to indicagte the expansion of the Universe or is it the closest they could get?
Please not that I don't believe they were referring to the expansion of the Universe but rather about how the sky covers us.
Right.
The ancient Hebrews managed to hit upon the Big Bang Theory back in Bronze Age, but were just too tongue tied and too inarticulate to say so.
They probably also had automobiles back then too. The Hebrews just didn't have a word for "automobile" so that's why cars aren't mentioned in the Bible, and why there is zero evidence for automobiles existing then. Ergo...the ancient Hebrews drove cars, and its not up to me to prove it (its up to everyone else on WP to DISprove it).
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The cosmos described in the Bible was static and finite. The stars were embedded in a "firmament" ( a big static dome). Nothing was "expanding".
30 Jun 2018, 7:10 am
naturalplastic wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
Fnord wrote:
"This is what God the LORD says-- the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out, who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it" -- Isaiah 42:5
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
The question would be, did the ancient Jews have a better verb to indicagte the expansion of the Universe or is it the closest they could get?
Please not that I don't believe they were referring to the expansion of the Universe but rather about how the sky covers us.
Right.
The ancient Hebrews managed to hit upon the Big Bang Theory back in Bronze Age, but were just too tongue tied and too inarticulate to say so.
They probably also had automobiles back then too. The Hebrews just didn't have a word for "automobile" so that's why cars aren't mentioned in the Bible, and why there is zero evidence for automobiles existing then. Ergo...the ancient Hebrews drove cars, and its not up to me to prove it (its up to everyone else on WP to DISprove it).
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The cosmos described in the Bible was static and finite. The stars were embedded in a "firmament" ( a big static dome). Nothing was "expanding".
You can keep your filthy sarcasm for yourself and start working on your reading comprehension skills instead of bothering me with stupid comments like this.
30 Jun 2018, 10:40 am
30 Jun 2018, 12:17 pm
Peacesells wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
Fnord wrote:
"This is what God the LORD says-- the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out, who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it" -- Isaiah 42:5
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
The question would be, did the ancient Jews have a better verb to indicagte the expansion of the Universe or is it the closest they could get?
Please not that I don't believe they were referring to the expansion of the Universe but rather about how the sky covers us.
Right.
The ancient Hebrews managed to hit upon the Big Bang Theory back in Bronze Age, but were just too tongue tied and too inarticulate to say so.
They probably also had automobiles back then too. The Hebrews just didn't have a word for "automobile" so that's why cars aren't mentioned in the Bible, and why there is zero evidence for automobiles existing then. Ergo...the ancient Hebrews drove cars, and its not up to me to prove it (its up to everyone else on WP to DISprove it).
……………………………….
The cosmos described in the Bible was static and finite. The stars were embedded in a "firmament" ( a big static dome). Nothing was "expanding".
You can keep your filthy sarcasm for yourself and start working on your reading comprehension skills instead of bothering me with stupid comments like this.
Communication breakdown alert.
You must have made a typo and meant to write "please NOTE that I don't believe A, but rather B"
Is that right?
"A" being that the Hebrews anticipated the Big Bang theory, and "B" being that they did not.
But that missing letter "e" that turned "note" into "not" turned the sentence into a confusing train wreck.
It looked like you were saying "Not that I don't believe A over B" (which would mean that you DO believe A over B), but then you said "but", and then stated B ( as if B were what you believed). So the reader didn't know which way you were going. And since you had already brought up the question about whether or not they had enough verbs in Hebrew...it looked like you were arguing that the Hebrews HAD talked about the BBT ahead of the theory's time but just didn't have the right words. Apparently you meant the opposite.
30 Jun 2018, 12:35 pm
naturalplastic wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
Fnord wrote:
"This is what God the LORD says-- the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out, who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it" -- Isaiah 42:5
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
"He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea." -- Job 9:8
Neither of these verses express anything like the expansion of the universe. The original Hebrew uses a verb related to the way a tent is "stretched out" to create a shelter.
The question would be, did the ancient Jews have a better verb to indicagte the expansion of the Universe or is it the closest they could get?
Please not that I don't believe they were referring to the expansion of the Universe but rather about how the sky covers us.
Right.
The ancient Hebrews managed to hit upon the Big Bang Theory back in Bronze Age, but were just too tongue tied and too inarticulate to say so.
They probably also had automobiles back then too. The Hebrews just didn't have a word for "automobile" so that's why cars aren't mentioned in the Bible, and why there is zero evidence for automobiles existing then. Ergo...the ancient Hebrews drove cars, and its not up to me to prove it (its up to everyone else on WP to DISprove it).
……………………………….
The cosmos described in the Bible was static and finite. The stars were embedded in a "firmament" ( a big static dome). Nothing was "expanding".
You can keep your filthy sarcasm for yourself and start working on your reading comprehension skills instead of bothering me with stupid comments like this.
Communication breakdown alert.
You must have made a typo and meant to write "please NOTE that I don't believe A, but rather B"
Is that right?
"A" being that the Hebrews anticipated the Big Bang theory, and "B" being that they did not.
But that missing letter "e" that turned "note" into "not" turned the sentence into a confusing train wreck.
It looked like you were saying "Not that I don't believe A over B" (which would mean that you DO believe A over B), but then you said "but", and then stated B ( as if B were what you believed). So the reader didn't know which way you were going. And since you had already brought up the question about whether or not they had enough verbs in Hebrew...it looked like you were arguing that the Hebrews HAD talked about the BBT ahead of the theory's time but just didn't have the right words. Apparently you meant the opposite.
I see, sorry for the misunderstanding and the harsh remarks. I don't really think they meant to talk about the expansion of the Universe, but I think that even if for some reason they were they would have used a verb like that probably.
Also, funnily enough, I have come across some Jews who think that before the flood they used to have super advanced technology.
30 Jun 2018, 1:41 pm
Peacesells wrote:
I see, sorry for the misunderstanding and the harsh remarks. I don't really think they meant to talk about the expansion of the Universe, but I think that even if for some reason they were they would have used a verb like that probably.
Also, funnily enough, I have come across some Jews who think that before the flood they used to have super advanced technology.
Also, funnily enough, I have come across some Jews who think that before the flood they used to have super advanced technology.
Perhaps the Deluge destroyed all the ancient black civilizations.
… or maybe the ancient black civilisations just escaped into space using their pyramids spaceships.
Someday, the Blafrican techno-overlords will return to earth and enslave us white devils. Be afraid!
30 Jun 2018, 2:49 pm
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
I see, sorry for the misunderstanding and the harsh remarks. I don't really think they meant to talk about the expansion of the Universe, but I think that even if for some reason they were they would have used a verb like that probably.
Also, funnily enough, I have come across some Jews who think that before the flood they used to have super advanced technology.
Also, funnily enough, I have come across some Jews who think that before the flood they used to have super advanced technology.
Perhaps the Deluge destroyed all the ancient black civilizations.
… or maybe the ancient black civilisations just escaped into space using their pyramids spaceships.
Someday, the Blafrican techno-overlords will return to earth and enslave us white devils. Be afraid!
Are you black?
30 Jun 2018, 3:21 pm
Peacesells wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
I see, sorry for the misunderstanding and the harsh remarks. I don't really think they meant to talk about the expansion of the Universe, but I think that even if for some reason they were they would have used a verb like that probably.
Also, funnily enough, I have come across some Jews who think that before the flood they used to have super advanced technology.
Also, funnily enough, I have come across some Jews who think that before the flood they used to have super advanced technology.
Perhaps the Deluge destroyed all the ancient black civilizations.
… or maybe the ancient black civilisations just escaped into space using their pyramids spaceships.
Someday, the Blafrican techno-overlords will return to earth and enslave us white devils. Be afraid!
Are you black?
I'm not black. I'm just making fun of Afrocentrism.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Black_supremacy
In the past, many people have called me a "cuck" and a "self-hating white". In reality, I don't like black supremacist insanity either.
