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Wolfram87
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17 Jul 2018, 11:20 am

Check out some of the OPs other threads, and you'll probably see what I'm talking about.


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17 Jul 2018, 11:28 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Why are so many neurotypicals so keen on the idea of compulsory service, be it military (the draft) or civilian alternative service?

First of all, it takes people out of the ordinary working force and place them under the state. They are paid by the government, and this means government expenditures on trivial stuff.

It is far better to have them find a job themselves, and decide which jobs they'd choose and encourage them to work in the private companies or start their own business than to force them to become slaves of Big Government.

The only arguments I've heard from the pro-conscriptors is that people especially young people should be taught a lesson on how to provide themselves and teach them good behavior... as if this should be the task of the government in the first place. It is Fascist, outright FASCIST mindset.

I hate them. I hate those who wants to force people into specific jobs, wether it be military service or alternative civilian service.

I wish such garbage people never existed!

I am a socialist. I believe in welfare, but I'd say damn NO to be provided for by slaves!

Taxation should be the only obligation of citizens. Forced labor should be outlawed!


Conscription is usually done when it is seen as necessary for the defense of the nation, such as in times of war or when a threat to the nation as autonomous is perceived to exist.



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18 Jul 2018, 6:25 am

Chronos wrote:
Conscription is usually done when it is seen as necessary for the defense of the nation, such as in times of war or when a threat to the nation as autonomous is perceived to exist.


People forget that in 1941, the US started a peacetime draft before Pearl Harbor was bombed. This same draft was on the books until 1973, when the unpopularity of the Vietnam War forced the Nixon administration to abolish it. True, more people were drafted during times of warfare than in peacetime, but American men could be drafted anytime between 1941-1973 (like Elvis Presley was in 1957, after WW2 and Korea, before Vietnam).

I think some countries still have these peacetime drafts.