19 Aug 2018, 11:47 pm
Mythos wrote:
It's actually been a sort of philosophy for at least two or three years now. I'd know.
Though they probably didn't put it in these exact words, basically offending people is a legitimate tactic used by conservatives (namely the alt right) because they genuinely feel that they must absolutely wall hug the identity that suggests they are the party of hard "logic", not like those silly cuck liberal soyboy feminazis who are so easily offended, the snowflakes.
Unfortunately for them, the idea sort of dies with the principle that all politics is usually vaguely emotionally driven. And that's a lot of y's so I'm done.
Though they probably didn't put it in these exact words, basically offending people is a legitimate tactic used by conservatives (namely the alt right) because they genuinely feel that they must absolutely wall hug the identity that suggests they are the party of hard "logic", not like those silly cuck liberal soyboy feminazis who are so easily offended, the snowflakes.
Unfortunately for them, the idea sort of dies with the principle that all politics is usually vaguely emotionally driven. And that's a lot of y's so I'm done.
Same is said for the SJW left, they will label people as "racist" "-phobic" and wish death upon their opponents. There's radical ideologues on both sides; truth is, most of us aren't, but both the "SJW left" and "alt-right" will try to pin people they disagree with into a single group, like SJWs pinning libertarians & moderates with the "alt-right" while the "alt-right" pin libertarians & moderates in with the SJWs (personal experience).
Me, caught between both groups (can apply to any mainstream partisan politics too):
Taking everybody on
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20 Aug 2018, 11:12 am
RandomFact wrote:
Hyeokgeose wrote:
I've been involved with politics on social media for years and not once have I heard anyone say "own the libs." This must be something only a few do, otherwise I certainly would've noticed by now. That phrase in itself just sounds cringy and completely unappealing. 
The Rolling Stone and Business Insider articles were published on July 26th and 28th, respectively. If “owning the libs” is like a typical social media meme, it became a phenomenon on or around July 24th, hit its prime around the 27th, and was obsolete by the 30th. If you happened to be on vacation that week, you would have missed it.
The lifecycle of an online meme is rather more drawn out than that, and it applies here too. By the time a big media outlet picks up on it, it's usually a few months old and past its peak. I remember a good graphic illustrating this with the example of "the cake is a lie".
Definitely a common phrase. The sentiment is older (as the articles demonstrate) but I've only been hearing the phrase for a few months; it first appeared on my favourite Discord server in April. Long-term WP users may remember a resident mild libertarian from Washington saying he was tempted to vote for Trump because he knew it would annoy a lot of people who annoyed him; that's the sort of thing this is talking about.
20 Aug 2018, 10:06 pm
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20 Aug 2018, 11:37 pm
The_Walrus wrote:
RandomFact wrote:
Hyeokgeose wrote:
I've been involved with politics on social media for years and not once have I heard anyone say "own the libs." This must be something only a few do, otherwise I certainly would've noticed by now. That phrase in itself just sounds cringy and completely unappealing.
The Rolling Stone and Business Insider articles were published on July 26th and 28th, respectively. If “owning the libs” is like a typical social media meme, it became a phenomenon on or around July 24th, hit its prime around the 27th, and was obsolete by the 30th. If you happened to be on vacation that week, you would have missed it.
The lifecycle of an online meme is rather more drawn out than that, and it applies here too. By the time a big media outlet picks up on it, it's usually a few months old and past its peak. I remember a good graphic illustrating this with the example of "the cake is a lie".
Definitely a common phrase. The sentiment is older (as the articles demonstrate) but I've only been hearing the phrase for a few months; it first appeared on my favourite Discord server in April. Long-term WP users may remember a resident mild libertarian from Washington saying he was tempted to vote for Trump because he knew it would annoy a lot of people who annoyed him; that's the sort of thing this is talking about.
Of course, this actually lasted longer than a week. What I wrote wasn’t meant literally.
The current meme is just an especially crude, Trumpian era manifestation of what is a very common phenomenon. The anecdotes tied to the meme generally range from the humorously pathetic to the pathetically sad. (I don’t know what the guy who served pizza at his wedding thought he was accomplishing, other than giving his guests a case of indigestion.) The real damage comes elsewhere. It is seen every time people walk out to the polls and vote against their own interests. Or when they cheer the dismantlement of safety net systems on which they and their relatives rely. Or when they sacrifice their lives in battle just so somebody else can make money. All of these things happen because people who are disempowered have been convinced that their actions will allow them to “stick it” to a bogeyman. And the perceptions of that bogeyman have been created and refined by the elites for the very purpose of getting people to act against their own self-interest.
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