What do you as Autistics think about Affirmative Action

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If you inspect the treatment of Asians by AA you will see exactly that. Universities which would be utterly dominated by Asians if not for quota systems.

I'm talking about African and Latino Americans, who are in fact still discriminated against.

Countering one form of racism with another form of racism is like the old “Eye for an eye; tooth for a tooth” law — the only thing THAT could ever accomplish is to fill the land with eyeless, toothless people. Thus, Affirmative Action makes everybody a racist by proxy.

So the natural and capable racism should have persisted until and possibly if they grew a conscience? Damn the lives and immorality of the counter-racists?

We are rejecting Turings and Ramanujans to make space for Transgender Studies majors who take Underwater Basket Weaving and Croatian Erotic Folk Dancing courses as requisites .. for what????? Neither could we head to a better future nor could they find a job.

So you enjoy putting words into people's mouths when they did not utter those words at all?

Racism sucks. Institutionalized racism sucks even more.

As I said in another thread on this, the entire thing needs to be burnt to the ground. Institutionalised racism and sexism. Every time it is used it's a fresh injustice heaped atop an enormous pile of injustice.

That's precisely what "Affirmative Action" is.

It's even government sanctioned.

And it's straight, blue-collar White men who suffer most from this discrimination, because they are already a very vulnerable group and they can not use membership any protected "minority" class to gain special benefits.

The suicide rate among White men without a college degree is skyrocketing, as The Economist explains :



But it's not just White men who suffer. Blue collar Whites in general are increasingly suffering from disenfranchisement, as the BBC reports :

While I have no doubt that it's true that white men are more likely to suffer from depression and die from suicide or substance abuse, I seriously doubt that affirmative action has much to do with it. It's hardly the case that vast numbers of jobs are going to non-whites due to government programs that would otherwise go to whites. It has more to do with the fact that corporate America has turned it's back on working class people in general with outsourcing and downsizing. The prosperity these people's parents and grandparents had known has been denied them. It's the conservative politicians and talking heads who have always sided with corporate America who have been scapegoating minorities and affirmative action.

You're just in denial.



So why is it Hispanics & Blacks feel like their living standards are improving while Whites feel their living standards are declining?

If it isn't because of the double standards for Whites vs Hispanics & Blacks due to 'affirmative action", why is life getting worse for Whites but better for Hispanics & Blacks?

A good example of how affirmative action harms Whites across the US, would be the racial discrimination at Ivy league colleges, which actually resulted in Harvard being majority non-white for the first time in its history back in 2017.

Interestingly, that same year, held its first black-only graduation ceremony, demonstrating how "minorities" tend to self-segregate when they are numerically strong enough.

I guess segregation is only evil when White people demand it? Heck, it seems Whites can only do wrong and non-Whites can only do right these days...



This isn't a Left-vs-Right issue. This is a plutocracy-vs-everyone-else issue.

Both mainstream "Liberal" politicians & mainstream "Conservative" politicians are mere figureheads for corporate America. And both pursue the same corporate agendas that are harmful for ordinary Americans...

Because whites have noticed the increase in the non-white population, especially in the general work-force. Also, careers and positions that our parents and grandparents enjoyed as "Whites Only" are now being populated with competent, educated non-whites and females. The "Old White Boys' Networks" are breaking down, and the people that filled and supported their ranks are ageing out and retiring.It isn't. What is happening is that whites are maintaining the same living standards they've always enjoyed, while non-whites have been slowly increasing their standard of living. It's actually that there is shrinkage in the gap between the standard of living for whites and non-whites.

It's hard for whites to feel superior to non-whites when non-whites display the same symbols of success that used to belong exclusively to whites; it is also hard for men to feel superior to women when progressively more women are becoming leaders in business and politics; and it seems to terrify white males that females and non-whites are achieving their successes without any support from white males.

So it is not so much that women and non-whites are being given an allegedly unfair advantage over white males, but that white males see their once-firm hold on social and economic superiority eroding away as progressively more and more females and non-white people graduate from college, obtain leadership positions, buy houses, and become more successful overall than their white male counterparts.

So how can white males maintain their control and influence over politics and business when they do nothing to enhance or advance the status of women and non-whites in the political and business arenas? What "favors" can white males call in from women and non-whites in positions of power and influence when those same white males did absolutely no favors for those very same women and non-whites?

As long as white males express their territorial imperatives through verbal and physical attacks against successful women and non-whites -- especially when those women and non-whites are more successful than white males -- there will be a steady erosion of white male influence throughout society, eventually reaching a point sometime in the mid-2040s where white males will become a minority in both power and numbers.

And THAT is why Incels, Maga, and the Alt-Right are so militant right now. It is also why this is likely to be their "Very Last Stand".

Good riddance!

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So you admit that Blacks & Hispanics are increasingly taking jobs that used to go to White people.

You kinda prove my point.



The reality is that many jobs that used to go to competent Whites are currently going to less competent non-Whites or women due to racial & gender quota that many organizations need to fill.

This is nothing but explicit institutional discrimination of White men in favor of others. And it hurts especially blue collar Whites, because they were already a very vulnerable group before all this discrimination started.



"Old Boys" networks have always been more defined by class than by race. And they're stronger than ever.



BS!

The White working classes are increasingly sinking away into poverty and despair because everyone ignores their needs.

Even Liberal darling Elizabeth Warren pointed out as early as 2008 how the (White) middle classes are disappearing.



Now that is among the most outrageously racist BS I've ever read.

Your anti-White, anti-male hatred is disgusting & very disturbing.

I wonder if you even realize how racist & sexist your statements really are...



It is all the disgusting anti-male & anti-White hatred permeating maintream society that makes Incels, Maga, and the Alt-Right so militant.

White men are constantly being attacked by everyone else for real or imaginary historical injustices that they never had a part in. And they're increasingly fed up with it!

No jobs are being "taken". What I am saying is that non-white people are being awarded those jobs because they are more qualified than their white counterparts, and that those white people are angry that they can no longer get jobs and promotions based solely on being white.Evidence, please? Keep in mind that I am in a position that requires me to review qualifications of job candidates, interview them, hire them, and then evaluate their performances. I've lost count of the number of times that I've hired a non-white or a woman based solely on their qualifications, only to hear from less-qualified white males about "reverse discrimination".Wrong again. It is better-qualified women and non-whites applying for and getting jobs and promotions over lesser-qualified white males.No, they're just more vocal and more visible since Mr. Trump took office. The fact that Congress now has more women and minorities than it ever had before is a clear indication that the "Good Old White Boy" network is losing its once-vaunted dominance.Your profanity is noted and reported. It also indicates that you lack any reasonable argument for your position.

Face it: White males can no longer get jobs and promotions, or get elected to public office, based solely on the fact that they are white males. If white males want to maintain their traditional levels of power and influence, then they had better start backing women and minorities -- doing more "favors" for women and minorities now means more "favors" from them when they come into power.

Adapt or Die -- it's just that simple.

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I don't believe "affirmative action" is usually the way to go.

But I also don't believe that "white people" are being discriminated against on a massive scale.

Ironically, I find that people sometimes think too much like Karl Marx....in the sense of seeing individual people as merely being part and parcel of a "mass."

I'm an anti-Communist because Communists have a dim view of seeing people as individuals.

Jobs are not being "Taken" from white males -- they are being awarded to the most qualified people, many of whom are women and/or non-whites. Jobs belong to the employer, not the employees. Members of the "Good Old White Boys" network should accept these facts