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09 Mar 2009, 12:34 pm

Fnord wrote:

"Salman Rushdie Knighted. Muslims Threaten Violence."

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"Britney Spears in Rehab. Muslims Threaten Violence."

"Autism Speaks Apologizes - Dissolves. Muslims Threaten Violence."

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In short: Muslims Threaten Violence.

So what else is new?

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09 Mar 2009, 3:29 pm

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Muslims have protected us jews for centuries from such anti semitic persecutions as the Spanish Inquisition, i am really greatful for the protection from the Muslims in the past.

The tolerance of medieval Muslims has been exaggerated a fair bit. Not to say they weren't better than their Christian contemporaries, because they were, but is that really saying much?

i know, but there were Medieval and Reneissance Christians who were tolorent to us Jews like under Muslim rule.

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09 Mar 2009, 3:47 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

Muslims have protected us jews for centuries from such anti semitic persecutions as the Spanish Inquisition, i am really greatful for the protection from the Muslims in the past.

The tolerance of medieval Muslims has been exaggerated a fair bit. Not to say they weren't better than their Christian contemporaries, because they were, but is that really saying much?

i know, but there were Medieval and Reneissance Christians who were tolorent to us Jews like under Muslim rule.

Well, in today's world, where do you think a Jew is safer–New York or Riyadh?

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09 Mar 2009, 4:34 pm

Orwell wrote:

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Laconvivencia wrote:

Muslims have protected us jews for centuries from such anti semitic persecutions as the Spanish Inquisition, i am really greatful for the protection from the Muslims in the past.

The tolerance of medieval Muslims has been exaggerated a fair bit. Not to say they weren't better than their Christian contemporaries, because they were, but is that really saying much?

i know, but there were Medieval and Reneissance Christians who were tolorent to us Jews like under Muslim rule.

Well, in today's world, where do you think a Jew is safer–New York or Riyadh?

muslims do not target directly on us Jews, they target on Zionists ,some muslims do go to far and think all Jews are Zionists(E.g in Syria the fascist goverment imposed humiliating laws simular to the Nazi Laws on Jews and The spanish Valladold Laws in 1412 imposed by St Vincent Ferrer that lead to the birth of the Spanish Inquisition). Not all of the Islamists are Anti semitic, They are only Anti Zionist, take Ayatollah Khoemeini (although I think the Ayatollah persecutuing the Bahais are wrong) for example, when Iran became the Islamic republic, the Ayatollah decreed that Jews, Zorastrians and Christians are to be a Protected Minority, The Ayatollah saw us as Iranians not Zionists, Khomeini distinguished between Zionism as a secular political party that employs Jewish symbols and ideals and Judaism as the religion of Moses. this shows the Ayatollah is not Anti Semitic.

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09 Mar 2009, 4:45 pm

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muslims do not target directly on us Jews, they target on Zionists

And for the rest of your post as well. Such a distinction is not very commonly made.

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09 Mar 2009, 5:41 pm

Orwell wrote:

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muslims do not target directly on us Jews, they target on Zionists

And for the rest of your post as well. Such a distinction is not very commonly made.

F.Y.I. "Zionist" is the Muslim code word for Jew. Virtually every Jew is a "Zionist" by their reckoning.

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09 Mar 2009, 7:07 pm

I've been called a "Zionist" for merely expressing the desire to visit an archeological site in Jerusalem, and I'm not even Jewish!

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09 Mar 2009, 7:38 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

muslims do not target directly on us Jews, they target on Zionists

And for the rest of your post as well. Such a distinction is not very commonly made.

F.Y.I. "Zionist" is the Muslim code word for Jew. Virtually every Jew is a "Zionist" by their reckoning.

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I dunno, maybe you could be a Jew but not a Zionist if you were very outspoken about the need for Israel to be nuked to oblivion.

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09 Mar 2009, 7:40 pm

Oh, and Laconvivencia...

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as a Jew, I would not even dare to Insult Islam or certain parts of Christianity as there is a risk of becoming a victim of anti-semitism.

Good to know Muslims don't target Jews.

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09 Mar 2009, 9:34 pm

Orwell wrote:

Oh, and Laconvivencia...

Laconvivencia wrote:

as a Jew, I would not even dare to Insult Islam or certain parts of Christianity as there is a risk of becoming a victim of anti-semitism.

Good to know Muslims don't target Jews.

The term anti-semitism was coined by the German, Willheim Marr. It specifically means hatred or antipathy to Jews. It does not generally apply to all Semites.

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09 Mar 2009, 11:43 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

muslims do not target directly on us Jews, they target on Zionists

And for the rest of your post as well. Such a distinction is not very commonly made.

F.Y.I. "Zionist" is the Muslim code word for Jew. Virtually every Jew is a "Zionist" by their reckoning.

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F.Y.I. "Muslim" is the Jewish code word for terrorist. Virtually every Muslim is a terrorist by their reckoning.

:roll:

You do see, don't you, that you're guilty of making the same sweeping generalisations about Muslims of the kind that you're complaining Muslims make about Jews?

(As for the original subject matter, I don't think he should have been awarded a knighthood, and that's not because I'm a muslim, it's because his writing doesn't merit it, it's a load of pretentious bollocks.)

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09 Mar 2009, 11:59 pm

Hrmph, and this is why....we must eat pie... (sorry, that slipped)

Back on topic, there's only a small portion of muslims that actually want to wage war with Israel though... I can't say the same about Israel not wanting to get rid of muslims since Israel's actions are determined by their leadership (i reckon the party that wants to get rid of all muslims etc.(Likoud?) is at odds with the other party who has a woman has their chief (i can't remember all the names >< )).

Otherwise, i have absolutely no qualms with some guy being knighted -picks nose- Not like i know him anyways.

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10 Mar 2009, 1:43 am

EnglishLulu wrote:

You do see, don't you, that you're guilty of making the same sweeping generalisations about Muslims of the kind that you're complaining Muslims make about Jews?

Who is doing the suicide bombing, bubbah?

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10 Mar 2009, 1:49 am

ruveyn wrote:

EnglishLulu wrote:

You do see, don't you, that you're guilty of making the same sweeping generalisations about Muslims of the kind that you're complaining Muslims make about Jews?

Who is doing the suicide bombing, bubbah?

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As soon as the Palestinians can get their hands on the type of military equipment available to Israel in its forays into Arab territoryI am reasonably sure a good deal of the suicide bombing will stop.

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10 Mar 2009, 2:16 am

ruveyn wrote:

EnglishLulu wrote:

You do see, don't you, that you're guilty of making the same sweeping generalisations about Muslims of the kind that you're complaining Muslims make about Jews?

Who is doing the suicide bombing, bubbah?

ruveyn

But the difference between you and I is that I don't believe Muslim = terrorist.

Just as I don't believe Jew = Zionist = someone who wants to ethnically cleanse Palestinians out of the West Bank and Gaza.

You do see, don't you, that you're making sweeping generalisations about Muslims (for the record, I'm Muslim, but I'm not a terrorist), yet at the same time you're criticising Muslims for making sweeping generalisations about Jewish people (and again, I'm Muslim, but I don't equate all Jews with Zionism and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians).

So you do see, don't you, that you're wrong on both counts?

Muslim isn't synonymous with terrorist (because I am one, a Muslim, but I'm not one, terrorist); and

Muslims don't all make sweeping generalisations equating Judaism with Zionism (because I'm a Muslim, and I don't).

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10 Mar 2009, 4:46 am

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In standard warfare the Isrealis will utterly extinguish the Palestineans. The only warfare Palestineans have a chance at is asymmetric warfare (suicide bombings, IEDs and the like).

Man for man the IDF is the best army on the planet. Tougher than our Marines. They are well motivated too. The alternative is extermination by the Muslims.

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