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13 Nov 2018, 11:38 am
13 Nov 2018, 11:41 am
Fnord wrote:
Again, it never ceases to amaze me how many Biblical "experts" there are who have never actually read the Bible.
Christians always say that whenever somebody calls the bible out on it's BS.
13 Nov 2018, 11:59 am
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13 Nov 2018, 12:24 pm
TW1ZTY wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Maybe not the Apocrapha . but from post Biblical Middle Ages Jewish folklore (though the story may have more ancient roots), the some of the Middle Ages Talmud.
But the very article you linked to says that the word "Lilith" only appears ONCE in the Hebrew Bible (the Jewish Bible is the same thing as the Christian Old Testament).
The point is that Lilith is a kind of a heretical story that's banned from both mainstream Christianity and from mainstream Judaism.
But even if Lilith were a standard Jewish Biblical character its doesn't change my point that Adam and Eve were the first humans, but not the first Jews, and the first Jews came much later (even if you take the Bible literally).
But the very article you linked to says that the word "Lilith" only appears ONCE in the Hebrew Bible (the Jewish Bible is the same thing as the Christian Old Testament).
The point is that Lilith is a kind of a heretical story that's banned from both mainstream Christianity and from mainstream Judaism.
But even if Lilith were a standard Jewish Biblical character its doesn't change my point that Adam and Eve were the first humans, but not the first Jews, and the first Jews came much later (even if you take the Bible literally).
And if they were really the first two humans then we should all be sitting around on porches wearing overalls and playing banjos.
It's just like that story of Noah rebuilding the world after it flooded by gathering two of each animal for his big boat. I guess that means every animal is inbred too.
Yes. There is that inbreeding problem ….with both man and beast.
And you wonder about things getting left out of the Bible.
For example:my theory is that Noah may have been the inventor of "insider trading" ( profiting from inside knowledge). I mean it looks really suspicious.
The Bible says that he, a six hundred year old man, and six other people built the ark. Imagine two world war two liberty ships welded together at the side - two ten thousand ton freighters each half again as long as a football field permanently welded together into one big wide ship- that was the size and shape of the Ark. But made of wood, instead of steel.
Now..imagine something that big being built by seven people.
In reality he probably hired hundreds of local contractors to help build it. But he paid them all ...ahem...on credit.
He knew that there was a flood coming. So he knew that all of his creditors were gonna die in that flood, so he knew he would never hafta pay them back. THATS gotta be the real deal about how the Ark got built.
And the later compilers of the Bible probably just kinda left that part of the story out.
13 Nov 2018, 12:26 pm
13 Nov 2018, 9:29 pm
TW1ZTY wrote:
I find it impossible to believe that we were created by one man and one woman whose offspring populated the world.
I mean think about it, if that really was true it would basically mean that we are all inbred.
The story of Adam and Eve is a crock of s**t.
I mean think about it, if that really was true it would basically mean that we are all inbred.
The story of Adam and Eve is a crock of s**t.
I actually just read that story last month, sitting in a motel room. We are not all inbred (although if you don't believe in Creation, science would dictate that we are), there were lots of other people on Earth after they left the garden.
13 Nov 2018, 10:04 pm
SabbraCadabra wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
I find it impossible to believe that we were created by one man and one woman whose offspring populated the world.
I mean think about it, if that really was true it would basically mean that we are all inbred.
The story of Adam and Eve is a crock of s**t.
I mean think about it, if that really was true it would basically mean that we are all inbred.
The story of Adam and Eve is a crock of s**t.
I actually just read that story last month, sitting in a motel room. We are not all inbred (although if you don't believe in Creation, science would dictate that we are), there were lots of other people on Earth after they left the garden.
So that would mean Adam and Eve were NOT the first two humans and if they were then where did the other humans come from?
And I'm sure we all came from inbred families at one point in time. Humans used to practice incest all the time. But one man and one woman would not be able to populate the entire human species.
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13 Nov 2018, 10:35 pm
13 Nov 2018, 10:57 pm
SabbraCadabra wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
I.
I actually just read that story last month, sitting in a motel room. We are not all inbred (although if you don't believe in Creation, science would dictate that we are), there were lots of other people on Earth after they left the garden.
Can you please translate this sentence into the type of English spoken here on planet Earth?
You screwed up your grammar so badly that I cannot decipher what you are trying to say here.
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