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16 Dec 2018, 9:19 pm
thinkinginpictures wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So what do you suggest as a better approach. Seems like the approach of just let them spew their hatred, just let them have their marches and that doesn't seem to work either.
We let people(not saying all) on the left spew their hatred and have their marches, should we lock them all up too?
Hatred is not the problem. The actual policies are.
There is nothing wrong with spew hatred at fascists. There is, however, a problem with fascist policies.
There is no fascist policy besides what democrats are enacting
16 Dec 2018, 9:22 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My opinion? The people of Denmark are becoming progressively more nationalistic with each passing day.
Well, I'm not talking about immigrants here. Their situation is even worse, though.Maybe the more correct term is "National Socialism"...
National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.
I'm not sure imprisoning individuals for their ideological views is a wise course of action, whether it's Nazis and similar, Islamists, Leninists, or whatnot. All that would likely do is further radicalize groups of that nature and force them to be more discreet about communicating their beliefs while using their appearance as martyrs to build a base of sympathizers. This strategy has been tried before and has failed before, and to succeed you'd merely end up with a totalitarian dystopia of another sort.
So what do you suggest as a better approach. Seems like the approach of just let them spew their hatred, just let them have their marches and that doesn't seem to work either.
We let people(not saying all) on the left spew their hatred and have their marches, should we lock them all up too?
We should lock them up when they do something criminal. In your society forget about guilty until proven innocent it would be just guilty.
What we have is working. That is still true even with the recent uptick in attacks. There were a few hundred of them in Charlottesville. For the anniversary march there was at most 20 of them, outnumbered by a few thousand counter protesters.
My society is one of rights apply been me even neo nazis and racists.
We don’t lock up antifa, Black life matters and other leftist protesters when they attack people, destroy cars, destroy buildings. This are all criminal acts, but surprise surprise democrats tell the police to stand down, don’t arrest anyone.
Laws in Portland only apply to non lefties.
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16 Dec 2018, 10:03 pm
sly279 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My opinion? The people of Denmark are becoming progressively more nationalistic with each passing day.
Well, I'm not talking about immigrants here. Their situation is even worse, though.Maybe the more correct term is "National Socialism"...
National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.
I'm not sure imprisoning individuals for their ideological views is a wise course of action, whether it's Nazis and similar, Islamists, Leninists, or whatnot. All that would likely do is further radicalize groups of that nature and force them to be more discreet about communicating their beliefs while using their appearance as martyrs to build a base of sympathizers. This strategy has been tried before and has failed before, and to succeed you'd merely end up with a totalitarian dystopia of another sort.
So what do you suggest as a better approach. Seems like the approach of just let them spew their hatred, just let them have their marches and that doesn't seem to work either.
We let people(not saying all) on the left spew their hatred and have their marches, should we lock them all up too?
We should lock them up when they do something criminal. In your society forget about guilty until proven innocent it would be just guilty.
What we have is working. That is still true even with the recent uptick in attacks. There were a few hundred of them in Charlottesville. For the anniversary march there was at most 20 of them, outnumbered by a few thousand counter protesters.
My society is one of rights apply been me even neo nazis and racists.
We don’t lock up antifa, Black life matters and other leftist protesters when they attack people, destroy cars, destroy buildings. This are all criminal acts, but surprise surprise democrats tell the police to stand down, don’t arrest anyone.
Laws in Portland only apply to non lefties.
I haven't seen much in the way of far right conservatives getting locked up, either, save for when they go a step too far and kill someone, like when they killed Heather Heyer.
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17 Dec 2018, 3:15 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My opinion? The people of Denmark are becoming progressively more nationalistic with each passing day.
Well, I'm not talking about immigrants here. Their situation is even worse, though.Maybe the more correct term is "National Socialism"...
National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.
I'm not sure imprisoning individuals for their ideological views is a wise course of action, whether it's Nazis and similar, Islamists, Leninists, or whatnot. All that would likely do is further radicalize groups of that nature and force them to be more discreet about communicating their beliefs while using their appearance as martyrs to build a base of sympathizers. This strategy has been tried before and has failed before, and to succeed you'd merely end up with a totalitarian dystopia of another sort.
So what do you suggest as a better approach. Seems like the approach of just let them spew their hatred, just let them have their marches and that doesn't seem to work either.
We let people(not saying all) on the left spew their hatred and have their marches, should we lock them all up too?
We should lock them up when they do something criminal. In your society forget about guilty until proven innocent it would be just guilty.
What we have is working. That is still true even with the recent uptick in attacks. There were a few hundred of them in Charlottesville. For the anniversary march there was at most 20 of them, outnumbered by a few thousand counter protesters.
My society is one of rights apply been me even neo nazis and racists.
We don’t lock up antifa, Black life matters and other leftist protesters when they attack people, destroy cars, destroy buildings. This are all criminal acts, but surprise surprise democrats tell the police to stand down, don’t arrest anyone.
Laws in Portland only apply to non lefties.
I haven't seen much in the way of far right conservatives getting locked up, either, save for when they go a step too far and kill someone, like when they killed Heather Heyer.
I’m not the one calling for those I disagree with to be locked up even though they haven’t comitted a crime.
Is self defense a crime?
Laughing at liberals is locked up for defending himself by a court that violated state laws.
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17 Dec 2018, 5:59 am
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My opinion? The people of Denmark are becoming progressively more nationalistic with each passing day.
Well, I'm not talking about immigrants here. Their situation is even worse, though.Maybe the more correct term is "National Socialism"...
National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.
I'm not sure imprisoning individuals for their ideological views is a wise course of action, whether it's Nazis and similar, Islamists, Leninists, or whatnot. All that would likely do is further radicalize groups of that nature and force them to be more discreet about communicating their beliefs while using their appearance as martyrs to build a base of sympathizers. This strategy has been tried before and has failed before, and to succeed you'd merely end up with a totalitarian dystopia of another sort.
So what do you suggest as a better approach. Seems like the approach of just let them spew their hatred, just let them have their marches and that doesn't seem to work either.
We let people(not saying all) on the left spew their hatred and have their marches, should we lock them all up too?
We should lock them up when they do something criminal. In your society forget about guilty until proven innocent it would be just guilty.
What we have is working. That is still true even with the recent uptick in attacks. There were a few hundred of them in Charlottesville. For the anniversary march there was at most 20 of them, outnumbered by a few thousand counter protesters.
My society is one of rights apply been me even neo nazis and racists.
We don’t lock up antifa, Black life matters and other leftist protesters when they attack people, destroy cars, destroy buildings. This are all criminal acts, but surprise surprise democrats tell the police to stand down, don’t arrest anyone.
Laws in Portland only apply to non lefties.
I haven't seen much in the way of far right conservatives getting locked up, either, save for when they go a step too far and kill someone, like when they killed Heather Heyer.
I’m not the one calling for those I disagree with to be locked up even though they haven’t comitted a crime.
Is self defense a crime?
Laughing at liberals is locked up for defending himself by a court that violated state laws.
Nobody is calling for anyone to be locked up just because of political disagreements.
No, self defense isn't a crime, but the jackhole who ran down Heather Heyer and others was hardly acting in self defense.
Who has been locked up for laughing at liberals?
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17 Dec 2018, 7:50 pm
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Who has been locked up for laughing at liberals?
No one. In recent years the conservatives have been crying crocodile tears and playing the victim.Of course. White nationalists will bawl about how whites face extinction, and how because of Affirmative Action they can only get 95% of jobs rather than 100%.
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18 Dec 2018, 3:42 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My opinion? The people of Denmark are becoming progressively more nationalistic with each passing day.
Well, I'm not talking about immigrants here. Their situation is even worse, though.Maybe the more correct term is "National Socialism"...
National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.
I'm not sure imprisoning individuals for their ideological views is a wise course of action, whether it's Nazis and similar, Islamists, Leninists, or whatnot. All that would likely do is further radicalize groups of that nature and force them to be more discreet about communicating their beliefs while using their appearance as martyrs to build a base of sympathizers. This strategy has been tried before and has failed before, and to succeed you'd merely end up with a totalitarian dystopia of another sort.
So what do you suggest as a better approach. Seems like the approach of just let them spew their hatred, just let them have their marches and that doesn't seem to work either.
We let people(not saying all) on the left spew their hatred and have their marches, should we lock them all up too?
We should lock them up when they do something criminal. In your society forget about guilty until proven innocent it would be just guilty.
What we have is working. That is still true even with the recent uptick in attacks. There were a few hundred of them in Charlottesville. For the anniversary march there was at most 20 of them, outnumbered by a few thousand counter protesters.
My society is one of rights apply been me even neo nazis and racists.
We don’t lock up antifa, Black life matters and other leftist protesters when they attack people, destroy cars, destroy buildings. This are all criminal acts, but surprise surprise democrats tell the police to stand down, don’t arrest anyone.
Laws in Portland only apply to non lefties.
I haven't seen much in the way of far right conservatives getting locked up, either, save for when they go a step too far and kill someone, like when they killed Heather Heyer.
I’m not the one calling for those I disagree with to be locked up even though they haven’t comitted a crime.
Is self defense a crime?
Laughing at liberals is locked up for defending himself by a court that violated state laws.
Nobody is calling for anyone to be locked up just because of political disagreements.
No, self defense isn't a crime, but the jackhole who ran down Heather Heyer and others was hardly acting in self defense.
Who has been locked up for laughing at liberals?
Maybe you should read the quote tree before responding as our posts are a respons to people suggesting others be locked up for their political beliefs.
“National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.”
Nazis unless they comiite crimes can’t just be locked up cause yiu don’t like their beleifs.
Just as liberals can’t.
Laughing at liberals is a independent journalist who was attacked by black life matters mob in Portland Oregon and pulled his gun to defend himself and has been unfairly convicted because our great democrat government could finally get rid of him. He records their actions live and shows their horribleness and hypocrisy.
This and others is why I’ll never go to Portland.
Imagine if the role was reversed and the mob was Maga hat people and the guy was a liberal. The judge would have locked the mob up and ruled self defense for the guy.
There’s no justice in Portland Oregon.
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18 Dec 2018, 6:07 am
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My opinion? The people of Denmark are becoming progressively more nationalistic with each passing day.
Well, I'm not talking about immigrants here. Their situation is even worse, though.Maybe the more correct term is "National Socialism"...
National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.
I'm not sure imprisoning individuals for their ideological views is a wise course of action, whether it's Nazis and similar, Islamists, Leninists, or whatnot. All that would likely do is further radicalize groups of that nature and force them to be more discreet about communicating their beliefs while using their appearance as martyrs to build a base of sympathizers. This strategy has been tried before and has failed before, and to succeed you'd merely end up with a totalitarian dystopia of another sort.
So what do you suggest as a better approach. Seems like the approach of just let them spew their hatred, just let them have their marches and that doesn't seem to work either.
We let people(not saying all) on the left spew their hatred and have their marches, should we lock them all up too?
We should lock them up when they do something criminal. In your society forget about guilty until proven innocent it would be just guilty.
What we have is working. That is still true even with the recent uptick in attacks. There were a few hundred of them in Charlottesville. For the anniversary march there was at most 20 of them, outnumbered by a few thousand counter protesters.
My society is one of rights apply been me even neo nazis and racists.
We don’t lock up antifa, Black life matters and other leftist protesters when they attack people, destroy cars, destroy buildings. This are all criminal acts, but surprise surprise democrats tell the police to stand down, don’t arrest anyone.
Laws in Portland only apply to non lefties.
I haven't seen much in the way of far right conservatives getting locked up, either, save for when they go a step too far and kill someone, like when they killed Heather Heyer.
I’m not the one calling for those I disagree with to be locked up even though they haven’t comitted a crime.
Is self defense a crime?
Laughing at liberals is locked up for defending himself by a court that violated state laws.
Nobody is calling for anyone to be locked up just because of political disagreements.
No, self defense isn't a crime, but the jackhole who ran down Heather Heyer and others was hardly acting in self defense.
Who has been locked up for laughing at liberals?
Maybe you should read the quote tree before responding as our posts are a respons to people suggesting others be locked up for their political beliefs.
“National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.”
Nazis unless they comiite crimes can’t just be locked up cause yiu don’t like their beleifs.
Just as liberals can’t.
Laughing at liberals is a independent journalist who was attacked by black life matters mob in Portland Oregon and pulled his gun to defend himself and has been unfairly convicted because our great democrat government could finally get rid of him. He records their actions live and shows their horribleness and hypocrisy.
This and others is why I’ll never go to Portland.
Imagine if the role was reversed and the mob was Maga hat people and the guy was a liberal. The judge would have locked the mob up and ruled self defense for the guy.
There’s no justice in Portland Oregon.
It's admittedly tough to feel sympathy for Nazis, but I'm all for letting them talk, as they're their own worst enemies when they reveal how stupidly hateful they are.
The guy in Portland - rightly or wrongly - had pulled a gun, which is why he had gone to prison, not because he was laughing at anyone.
Trump supporters shouldn't be silenced with violence, but with sound arguments.
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18 Dec 2018, 7:43 pm
sly279 wrote:
His name is laughing at liberals. That’s his YouTube Channel.
Pulling a gun to defend yourself isn’t a crime. He’s in prison because they wanted to shut down media who reports on their wrong doings
Guessing you didn’t watch the videos.
Pulling a gun to defend yourself isn’t a crime. He’s in prison because they wanted to shut down media who reports on their wrong doings
Guessing you didn’t watch the videos.
I still think his being behind bars has more to do with him rightly or wrongly pulling a gun. If he was truly defending himself, then I agree, he shouldn't be in jail.
Recently, some old dickhead racist had made a reprehensible statement to a group of black teens at a McDonald's. When their friends walked over to give moral support, the old c*cksucker pulled a gun on them, later claiming self defense. It was no such thing.
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18 Dec 2018, 10:22 pm
thinkinginpictures wrote:
National Socialists (nazis) should be imprisoned for their beliefs - until they repent - then they shall be thrown into jail for 10 years! If they repeat their crime of becoming nazis, they should be imprisoned for life.
I honestly want to know whats your beef with Nazis?
Now to liven the situation up with some sarcasm:
It obviously isn't scapegoating societies problems on a hated minority or wanting to to commit culturicide.
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