22 Dec 2018, 12:58 pm
22 Dec 2018, 1:01 pm
And yet it's perfectly legal to drive somebody into commiting suicide but illegal to make somebody else murder another person for you. 
22 Dec 2018, 2:24 pm
22 Dec 2018, 2:25 pm
Illegal in what year and what country?
Some things that should be legal, are illegal
And vice versa
And "should" according to whom?
Yes you do not end up in jail, but if you try to kill yourself and fail to do so, the police will come and send you to a psych ward.
Mandated Reporter law
United States
While I do not claim to know "why" suicide is illegal, (I propose that) maybe the reason is because attempting and or succeeding at suicide, sometimes puts innocent bystanders at risk
For example, the bullet could ricochet or misfire and strike someone else
If someone jumps out of a building, they could land on someone else and injure them
That is just a proposal. Since I am not telepathic, I do not know the reasoning behind the politician that wrote that law
If you resist they will arrest you and treat you like a criminal who just murdered someone. So why exactly is suicide not really legal? Why do they try to keep you alive at all costs?
Cost benefit analysis
It does not make sense to me
Maybe it has to do with, as long as you are alive, you have to pay them money, for medical bills
(Just a proposal)
Even when you are a hopeless case?
"Hopeless" according to whom?
You can't measure "hope,"
False hope
And even if there is "hope", it could be unreasonable or unrealistic
People sometimes overestimate or underestimate hope
What do you personally think? Is it right when the government tries to keep hopeless suicidal people alive at all costs?
No, and it is a waste of time, money and energy.
Should assisted suicide be illegal in all cases?
No and there is no method to enforce succeses. Someone might fail, and nobody finds out
Should it be legal?
Yes
And maybe even be available for depressed people?
After some meds and psychotherapy, if desired, yes sir. Yes ma'am. Yes gender non-conforming people
Should Suicide be made generally harder, or easier for people?
Easier, overpopulation
Some people write, that they want to commit suicide, but they do not because their family and friends
But everyone is going to drop dead sooner or later, its just the technique and sequence
And if they really "care" about family and friends, they can consider, carbon footprint, and give them inheritance
Is it really ethical to not let people die who want to die?
Just my stupid lil opinion, but someone's life is their property and not vandalism, murder
Kraftie kortie
Circumstances at 20 could be better, the same, or equal to the ones at 19
The chances are not the same for each outcome
And if it gets better, how much better?.
A "waste" of what?
Besides, pollution is already a "waste"
There are many people that do not commit suicide, and do not do "great" things
What is the definition of "great things"?
The "great things" do not necessarily justify the suffering
Cost benefit analysis
If capital punishment is legal, (in what year and what country), it does not make sense that suicide is illegal
Someone that wants to commit suicide, could just get convicted of a capital felony
22 Dec 2018, 2:34 pm
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22 Dec 2018, 2:58 pm
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22 Dec 2018, 3:34 pm
And what better way to stop a miserable human being from killing themselves than to punish them as a criminal for wanting to do it? Dat logic...
22 Dec 2018, 4:37 pm
22 Dec 2018, 5:08 pm
22 Dec 2018, 6:06 pm
maybe it has to do with, failed suicide attempts often involve $$ bills.
maybe someone profits, financially or otherwise, by having the maximum number of precious lil "people" alive for the longest amount of time. (who, i have no clue.)
someone told me that a psychologist sent her to 5150 (united states). and the insurance billed her $$$. so maybe someone earns $$ for the Involuntary Psychiatric Hold. (staff, etc).
maybe whoever made suicide illegal, wrongfully assumed that someone suicidal would be more likely (than otherwise) to also be homicidal.
someone that has gotten sent to 5150 can't join the military, police, firefighter, or CIA or similiar jobs.
Fnord wrote:
Suicide is illegal because it is murder.
Attempted suicide is attempted murder.
Planning to commit suicide is planning to commit murder.
Assisting in a suicide is assisting in a murder.
Plain and simple.
I get the reasoning, but by that same token: if you cause an accident that kills only yourself, are you then guilty of manslaughter?
it's the intention. an "accident" is an "accident", regardless of outcome.
"Suicide is on the rise and high suicide rates contribute to economic and social problems."
whose economic or social problems?
people that attempt and fail at suicide often get $$ bills. that could put their family in economic problems. however, the professionals that provide the medical and legal services, get helped, by getting more jobs.
overpopulation
carbon footprint
"There are narcissists out there who will bully and drive a person into wanting to kill themselves. Those type of people should be blamed in my opinion."
some states have "bullycide" laws.
anyways it does not make sense, b/c everyone is going to drop dead sooner or later. why should it matter, to the government, when someone dies, or what method?
22 Dec 2018, 6:14 pm
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22 Dec 2018, 8:38 pm
22 Dec 2018, 8:41 pm
Sorry I'm feeling like a major downer today. I'm seeing all the bad in the world right now. 
