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08 Mar 2019, 5:38 pm

Unfortunately anti-Semitism is rampant in many left-wing circles, which includes the left wing of the Democratic Party. People like to disguise it as "anti-Zionism" but they completely give it away by denying Israel's right to exist while supporting Hamas or even uninvolved dictators. Israel is the best country in the region, particularly for minority rights (including the rights of Israeli Arabs - no country in the Middle East treats their Jews as well as Israel treats its religious minorities).

Of course, nobody should believe for a second that the alt-right are genuinely concerned about anti-Semitism rather than just using it as a stick to beat their enemies - the alt-right is even worse on this matter than the far left. But the left is too complacent; many left-wing people think "I'm left-wing, therefore I can't possibly be anti-Semitic" without examining their views. Of course, the same is true for people of all political persuasions. Most people hold racist views, but nearly everyone will react with vigorous denial at the idea that they hold these views. If we really want to fight bigotry then we have to be open-minded about its prevalence rather than just reflexively denying its existence.



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09 Mar 2019, 3:42 pm

Since Israel's policies have become more psychotic. Like shooting children in the face and celebrating. Bulldozing homes with the residents still inside. Putting black immigrants in a detention centre in the desert and giving them a curfew. Bombing schools and hospitals with white phosphorus (which burns at around 5000F). Bombing children playing football on a beach. Bombing 7 UN shelters. Bombing a zoo. Shooting clearly marked medics. Torturing. Taking children from their homes and putting them in secret prisons. Etc

Since these sadistic policies have become more common, Israel has looked through their lobby groups to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. The trouble with this is that is that the last part of the "working definition of Anti-Semitism" is..

-"Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel."

So the post above mine conflates Israel with "the Jews" which means the post is Anti-Semitic according the the Working Definition.


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09 Mar 2019, 10:08 pm

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Since Israel's policies have become more psychotic. Like shooting children in the face and celebrating. Bulldozing homes with the residents still inside. Putting black immigrants in a detention centre in the desert and giving them a curfew. Bombing schools and hospitals with white phosphorus (which burns at around 5000F). Bombing children playing football on a beach. Bombing 7 UN shelters. Bombing a zoo. Shooting clearly marked medics. Torturing. Taking children from their homes and putting them in secret prisons. Etc

Since these sadistic policies have become more common, Israel has looked through their lobby groups to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. The trouble with this is that is that the last part of the "working definition of Anti-Semitism" is..

-"Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel."

So the post above mine conflates Israel with "the Jews" which means the post is Anti-Semitic according the the Working Definition.


I've noticed this a lot. Israel = "the Jews." I wonder if the Israeli Jew who criticise the Israeli government are anti-Semites?


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10 Mar 2019, 1:43 am

You bet. It's pretty outrageous https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... miko-peled

A Jewish woman was removed from the Labour party in the UK.


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10 Mar 2019, 2:21 am

BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
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Since Israel's policies have become more psychotic. Like shooting children in the face and celebrating. Bulldozing homes with the residents still inside. Putting black immigrants in a detention centre in the desert and giving them a curfew. Bombing schools and hospitals with white phosphorus (which burns at around 5000F). Bombing children playing football on a beach. Bombing 7 UN shelters. Bombing a zoo. Shooting clearly marked medics. Torturing. Taking children from their homes and putting them in secret prisons. Etc

Since these sadistic policies have become more common, Israel has looked through their lobby groups to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. The trouble with this is that is that the last part of the "working definition of Anti-Semitism" is..

-"Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel."

So the post above mine conflates Israel with "the Jews" which means the post is Anti-Semitic according the the Working Definition.


I've noticed this a lot. Israel = "the Jews." I wonder if the Israeli Jew who criticise the Israeli government are anti-Semites?


Depends on the Jew. Of course, there are anti Semitic jews just as there are anti autistic autistics, just as there are anti gay gays.


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10 Mar 2019, 11:10 am

If a person called out for racist remarks and says they were taken out of context a lot of people on the very progressive left will note that they do not believe them, that they see right through them but when one of their own has been called out on anti semitism what we are getting it was taken out of context and that she is a fine person. Her remarks have been explained as not anti semetic because Jews were not specifically mentioned by some of the people so quick to yell dog whistle in other contexts.

What she said not 40 years ago but twice in the last month was not just criticizing people supporting Israel but she said they were more loyal to Israel then America. Charges of dual loyalty as has been noted have been lobbed against Jews forever but they have also been common in American politics. Internment of Japanese Americans, Electing Al Smith and John Kennedy means the Pope will be running the country, McCarthyism, anti Vietnam and anti Iraq protesters are a fifth column, Obama birther conspiracy theories.

Whatabout the KKK and Nazis? IMHO the anti Semitic right is much more lethal and the anti Semitic left more influencial if not now in the future as that part the part of the progressive movement is young and more social media savvy. We don’t get the choice of picking our poison, we have to deal with both.


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10 Mar 2019, 5:08 pm

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One of these rare occasions I agree with you.

One time she asked why it was acceptable for a foreign government to lobby for American citizens to have allegiance to a foreign country. It is a reasonable question.


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10 Mar 2019, 10:08 pm

ICE investigating agents for sharing social media posts promoting conspiracy theories about Omar

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Two Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers are reportedly under review by the department for liking and sharing social media posts promoting a conspiracy theory about Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), a department spokesperson confirmed to The Hill.

ABC News reported Saturday that a senior Homeland Security Investigations agent, Leslie Derewonko, shared a LinkedIn post with a video claiming Omar attended "terrorism classes."

“Hell just make her the Director of National Security, obviously she not only took TERRORIST classes, she sat in class WITH THEM,” Derewonko wrote in the post, which was screen-grabbed by ABC.

According to the outlet, San Francisco-based special agent Jerry Templet, liked the post, which was first reported by BuzzFeed News on Thursday. Templet is the second-in-command of Homeland Security investigations in San Francisco.

ABC reported that both agents have changed their LinkedIn accounts and removed their association with ICE from their profiles.


Fox News' Pirro says Rep. Omar's hijab could signal views 'antithetical' to Constitution
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Fox News host Jeanine Pirro on Saturday questioned whether Rep. Ilhan Omar's use of a hijab, a head covering traditionally worn by Muslim women, signaled that she held beliefs that are "antithetical" to the Constitution.

Pirro made the comments during an opening statement for her show "Justice with Judge Jeanine" that focused on the freshman Minnesota Democrat's recent controversial criticisms of Israel, which were widely condemned as anti-Semitic. Pirro suggested that Omar, who is one of the first Muslim women elected to Congress, was driven to make her remarks because of her religion.

"Think about this: She's not getting this anti-Israel sentiment doctrine from the Democrat Party. So if it's not rooted in the party, where is she getting it from?" Pirro said.

"Think about it. Omar wears a hijab, which according to the Quran 33:59, tells women to cover so they won't get molested. Is her adherence to this Islamic doctrine indicative of her adherence to Sharia law, which in itself is antithetical to the United States Constitution?" she asked.


These remarks are Islamophobic, no other way to describe them.

The Islamophobic attacks on her makes it easier to say the criticism of her is all about her being a women of color, nothing else to see there.


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11 Mar 2019, 7:51 pm

Yes, how strange! What could possibly explain it? :lol:

Newsrooms that went wild when David Duke endorsed Laura Ingraham suddenly silent when he did the same for Rep. Omar

Certain newsrooms lit up in 2018 after former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke gave an enthusiastic two thumbs up to one of Laura Ingraham’s many anti-immigration tirades.

Weirdly enough, these same newsrooms have yet to report on the former grand wizard applauding Rep. Ilhan Omar’s, D-Minn., attacks on Israel and American Jews.

How strange!


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... r-rep-omar


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15 Mar 2019, 5:02 am

And since Duke's approval is basically a reverse Midas' touch, I'm guessing Omar will be explosively disavowed now?


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07 Jun 2019, 8:55 am

Omar's pattern of criminality is gradually being exposed, even though the left-wing media has done it's best to keep it covered up.

ILHAN OMAR’S BLIZZARD OF LIES

Minnesota Fifth District Rep. Ilhan Omar is living in a blizzard of lies. She is accustomed to shouting them down with imputations of bigotry and “Islamophobia” such as she dished out to me when I first inquired about her marriage to now former husband number 2 (Ahmed Nur Said Elmi), who appears to be her brother. For the back story please see the linked City Journal column.

Today we go beyond circumstantial evidence making out the fraudulence of Omar’s marriage to husband number 2. Following up on a complaint filed by state representative Steve Drazkowski, the Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board has found Omar to have committed numerous campaign finance violations and ordered Omar personally
to reimburse her own campaign account $3,469.23 and to pay a civil penalty of $500 for violating state campaign finance law. The violations are of interest and show Omar’s penchant for cutting corners at will.

But that is the least of it. Coincidentally as a result of the investigation and related findings, we now learn that Omar and husband number 1 filed joint tax returns for 2014 and 2015 — this despite the fact that she was never legally married to him and was married to Elmi at the time. The joint tax returns nevertheless show that Omar treated husband number 1 (Ahmed Hirsi, the father of her children) as her husband during her marriage to Elmi — probably because the marriage to Elmi was a sham. This is something of a bombshell.


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07 Jun 2019, 11:26 am

I'm not a fan of Representative Omar, but Darmok, it seems that the "married to her brother" element is an Islamophobic conspiracy theory. No evidence has ever been offered to support it, and there is plenty of circumstantial evidence against it (as well as a personal denial from Omar herself):
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan ... y-brother/

On the campaign finance and tax evasion elements, these may turn out to be true. There seems to be a dearth of reliable commentary on the matter but Fox News did link directly to what seems to be a genuine government report on the matter: https://cfb.mn.gov/pdf/bdactions/1464_F ... 1559852555



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07 Jun 2019, 11:37 am

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan ... y-brother/

She seems to be involved ina whole mess of fishy business, but the sham-marriage to get her brother citizenship allegation seems to be shaky at best.


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07 Jun 2019, 12:30 pm

There is no real left wing media. Just liberals and they sit on the fence or take the side of the Israel lobby that is after people like Omar.


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28 Aug 2019, 10:00 pm

Yikes: Did Ilhan Omar’s Campaign Funds Mostly Go Toward Her Alleged Affair?

Yesterday the New York Post reported that Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is having an affair with Democratic strategist Tim Mynett. The allegation was made in divorce papers filed by his wife. In July, Omar filed for divorce from her current husband. A refresher:

"Dr. Beth Jordan Mynett says her cheating spouse, Tim Mynett, told her in April that he was having an affair with the Somali-born US representative and that he even made a “shocking declaration of love” for the Minnesota congresswoman before he ditched his wife, alleges the filing, submitted in DC Superior Court on Tuesday."

It turns out Mynett's firm was funneled a boat load of Omar's campaign cash. He was paid more than $200,000 for consulting and the campaign reimbursed at least $21,000 for his personal travel. That travel wasn't properly reported or itemized.

An official complaint regarding the large payments to Mynett's firm has already been filed, alleging she broke the law.


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