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25 Mar 2019, 9:01 am

I'm speculating....

I'm supposing "if there was a God...."



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25 Mar 2019, 9:04 am

Basically, many of the Founding Fathers believed in a form of Deism which stated, in essence, that God created the world, then permanently withdrew from its affairs.

If there's a God, I don't feel He would seek to interfere in the affairs of Humans. He would want Humans to resolve their own crap.



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25 Mar 2019, 9:04 am

I think man invented God to justify his own actions.



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25 Mar 2019, 9:07 am

I believe Man created God in order to account for the "unaccountable."



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25 Mar 2019, 9:08 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe Man created God in order to account for the "unaccountable."

No that's what the Pagan Gods were for.



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25 Mar 2019, 9:09 am

I believe it was that----plus some claim to some "higher morality."



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25 Mar 2019, 9:10 am

TW1ZTY wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe Man created God in order to account for the "unaccountable."

No that's what the Pagan Gods were for.

The God most likely evolved from some kind of unification of pagan gods.


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25 Mar 2019, 9:13 am

There was a claim to a "higher morality" vis a vis the polytheists.

And, sometimes, it was proven to be somewhat true.

Even Islam "civilized" many places, even though their conquering methods were barbaric by the standards of today.



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25 Mar 2019, 12:54 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
^I think that's just a fancy rationalized way of denying that God doesn't exist.

"Oh it's OK that God allows horrible torturous suffering to happen all over the world everyday because we humans are too stupid to understand that God sending us diseases like AIDS, allowing people to be burned alive in his name, and big destructive wars that kill millions of people is his way of showing that he loves us." :roll:


First of all I consider myself atheistic, because I do not believe God exists. However I can not prove that God doesn't exist so I allow for the possibility.

However let's consider God, an "all-powerful" being that creates the entire world and dictates the outcomes of life. Consider the difference between us and bacteria. We kill millions of bacteria every day with anti-bacterials. We supply millions more with food we drop on the ground etc. IF bacteria could think they're wondering? Why does God give us such food to eat one minute, and spray us with lysol the next. Of course bacteria can't think. They just react to the environmental changes having no concept of us.

The gap between a theoretical God and us is much larger than the gap between humans and bacteria. If God exists, our conception of God is almost certainly very wrong.


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25 Mar 2019, 12:56 pm

The fact he hasn't killed us all off, before starting over in a world without free will is proof enough of mercy.
If I was God I wouldn't bother with humans at all.


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25 Mar 2019, 12:57 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
I think man invented God to justify his own actions.

No, he created man because he was bored. Like TV. At least that's my guess.


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25 Mar 2019, 1:03 pm

I think the Tripple Moon Goddess and The Horned God of the Forest makes more sense for creation. I mean how can you "create" without both a man and a woman? :huh:

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Honestly I think all those abrahamic religions hate women. Misogyny at its best.



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25 Mar 2019, 5:42 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe Man created God in order to account for the "unaccountable."

No that's what the Pagan Gods were for.


Speaking as a pagan, I don't think that's any more true for pagan gods than it is for a monotheistic one.



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25 Mar 2019, 5:50 pm

epilanthanomai wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe Man created God in order to account for the "unaccountable."

No that's what the Pagan Gods were for.


Speaking as a pagan, I don't think that's any more true for pagan gods than it is for a monotheistic one.


So it's true for both?



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26 Mar 2019, 8:50 am

TW1ZTY wrote:
epilanthanomai wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe Man created God in order to account for the "unaccountable."

No that's what the Pagan Gods were for.


Speaking as a pagan, I don't think that's any more true for pagan gods than it is for a monotheistic one.


So it's true for both?


It's a little bit of both. Some monotheists use "God said so" and "It's in my book" as an explanation for all sorts of things, and it certainly pops up in polytheistic mythologies, too. And in both cases some people take those stories as interesting literature and treat their God or gods as something more subtle or complex.



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26 Mar 2019, 9:52 am

Technically pantheism is a monotheism, especially in the Neoplatonist sense (probably the heaviest influence on the new testament - which causes strange hair-pin turns between a sort of Zoroastrian dualism and a rather emanationist image of Jesus in the gospel of John), although pantheistic monism also quite often accepts a plurality of gods and goddesses as sort of sub-personas of the one deity.


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