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06 May 2019, 3:04 am

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I'm really not for abortion after 3 months gestation, to be honest.

Ouch. Can you make that 4 months? Also, it's legal and the mother decides, y/n?



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06 May 2019, 3:08 am

Why does the religious right want to end abortion? What's their ulterior motive?


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06 May 2019, 3:10 am

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Funny that so many pro-lifers care about the fetus before birth, but could care less about the child, especially if that child is poor and on public assistance, after having been born. Really compassionate, those pro-lifers (that last is sarcasm, as I know I'm dealing with my fellow Aspies :lol: ).


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06 May 2019, 3:12 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Why does the religious right want to end abortion? What's their ulterior motive?


Every Sperm is Sacred - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life:

https://youtu.be/fUspLVStPbkg



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06 May 2019, 4:31 am

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Pence now publicly stating that Democrat Governers are advocating infanticide

Wtf?!


Goes to show you how easily Pence has let his so called Christian morality go out the window when it comes to serving his master.


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06 May 2019, 6:27 am

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The reason people's opinions are different on this particular subject is because there is no true line. Whether you see a fetus as a valuable life is opinion just as a full grown life being valuable is an opinion. It's a real life the entire time, from conception. The birthing process ejects a full grown baby, it is fully developed way before the birthing process. There is nothing magical about the birth moment that turns it into a baby, it's a baby before it comes out and can survive being birthed at 6 months. It's a life the entire time. Just as one could say, well, the human brain isn't fully developed until around 25 years old so one could argue that if you don't like your 24 year old you should be able to kill them, as they have not fully developed their brain yet.

That is what leads to different people having different opinions, because exposure to light dosen't magically spawn a living baby, the baby is alive and growing the entire time.


Very well put. I agree with everything you've said here.



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06 May 2019, 9:26 am

Why are men trying to tell women what they can do with their own bodies, anyway?


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06 May 2019, 9:36 am

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dilating the cervix and extracting it intact


You left out the part where they sever the wriggling baby's spinal cord with scalpel. It smells a lot like induced birth followed by execution to me.


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06 May 2019, 10:01 am

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Why are men trying to tell women what they can do with their own bodies, anyway?


Edit; their child's body


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06 May 2019, 10:08 am

Arganger wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Why are men trying to tell women what they can do with their own bodies, anyway?
Edit; their child's body
Re-Edit: An unwanted parasite to the woman's body.

To re-phrase my question, Why should any man have the right to control a body that is not physically his own?


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06 May 2019, 10:11 am

Having an 'abortion' at 9 months is murder.


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06 May 2019, 10:13 am

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Having an 'abortion' at 9 months is murder.
Says who?

Honestly, I want to know.


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06 May 2019, 10:55 am

Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Having an 'abortion' at 9 months is murder.
Says who?

Honestly, I want to know.


Even a good portion of pro choice people considering that is a fully developed infant. How is nine month in abortion any different than countries who's doctors offer to throw your baby away if it is female at birth?


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06 May 2019, 10:58 am

Arganger wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Having an 'abortion' at 9 months is murder.
Says who?

Honestly, I want to know.


Even a good portion of pro choice people considering that is a fully developed infant. How is nine month in abortion any different than countries who's doctors offer to throw your baby away if it is female at birth?


Exactly.


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06 May 2019, 11:10 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Arganger wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Having an 'abortion' at 9 months is murder.
Says who? Honestly, I want to know.
Even a good portion of pro choice people considering that is a fully developed infant. How is nine month in abortion any different than countries who's doctors offer to throw your baby away if it is female at birth?
Exactly.
Evasion is not an answer.

No one has answered my question...

"Why should any man have the right to control a body that is not physically his own?"


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06 May 2019, 11:57 am

Fnord wrote:
"Why should any man have the right to control a body that is not physically his own?"

Anti-vaxxers, Christian Scientists, Libertarians, people who oppose laws, etc .... make the same argument.

The short answer from George from Seinfeld ...

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