Corrupt elections are not fake news.

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Oh, the irony! Focusing on unproven BS is exactly how we DON'T fix it! And don't f*****g tell me I'm not questioning Trump! I question him everyday -- on policies! If the left continues to attack Trump without providing any alternatives, then we will most certainly get Trump for another four years. I know plenty about our Democratic process, sir! I've been watching it erode my entire life!

Be gone with your bad vibes man. The alternative is to have a respectful ideal of leadership. If you don't want to help young people accomplish that, what gives you the right to talk s**t about us?

I don't care where Trump came from, he doesn't know respect & doesn't seem capable of imitating it either.

You're defending a friend of DPRK war criminals. Your righteous indignation doesn't make any sense to me considering that all this guy has done is throw away policies he doesn't like without replacing them. His policy is ignorance of all other policy!

You're being disrespectful, if you ask me, that's how Trump gets you. If you're sinking to the level of the current white house just to slip some of your favored policies by the usual checks & balances, you've compromised your integrity just as much as our stammering president.

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Where did I talk s**t about you? All I'm giving you is a different perspective. If we keep bashing a symptom, rarther than the disease, we will get what we deserve.

I'm leaving my thread for everyone else now.

To me, this is isn't even remotely about liberals v. conservatives anymore.

The main political race is about greed v. civic responsibility.

Right now greed is winning. We're going to have a trillion dollar mess to clean up pretty soon if the EPA remains vacant.

It never was about "liberal vs conservatives," to me. I don't have a dog in that fight.

I don't recall the left ever defending Russian totalitarianism or expansionism.

There were plenty of Dems who criticized the Pubs for being hawkish toward Russia. My point is the roles have now reversed. It's all useful rhetoric that has no basis in reality. When Trump sat down with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, he was harshly criticized by the left for not taking a harsher stance. The left would have been praising Obama for trying to make peace. Polls showed that 79% of Pubs were in favor of the NK deal. If had been Obama, the numbers would have been far lower. I'm sure you get the point I'm trying to make. Political positions are rarely consistant, and both sides are neck deep in hypocrisy.

Harsh stances are historically proven to be necessary in remanding war criminals. Trump's laxity towards Israel & the DPRK guarantees a greater death toll during negotiations.

For that matter, how are Twitter & Facebook as political entities any better than a foreign power buying an election? They're self-absorbed private companies with no humane goals whatsoever.

Year the dems loves Obama when he paid nk millions and mad deals with nk. When trump was being harsh they accused him of starting ww3 said he’d end the planet then when he does what they wanted and tries to make peace he’s horrible for that and should take the harsh stances they got mad at him for taking earlier . 0.o
Seems they just want to hate trump and it doesn’t matter what he does as they just say it’s wrong even if it’s what they previously told him to do.

I’m sure calling us stupid will get them all to vote democrat this time.
I voted trump for his policies and will again in 2020

Calling you stupid is our constitutional right & Trump has directly threatened said right. Calling us "liberals" is your constitutional right to be a dick in action.

Actually, that's because some people understand Trump to be hateful towards more than half the country & ignorant towards all his advisors, not to mention the fact that he broke with practical tradition & only hired advisors who agree with him about anything he tells them to.

There's no such thing as group A of good people & group B of bad people. That's not how life works. Good people make mistakes & wealthy sociopaths like Trump can do good things too, I'm not denying that, I'm calling him out for ignoring war crimes & demeaning the integrity of our democratic process by claiming infallibility.

Don’t expect to gain much votes by calling people stupid. Would you want to vote for me if I called you stupid?
Also I beleive wp doesn’t allow calling people or groups stupid.
So you don’t have the right to call me stupid on wp.

I never said he couldn’t but wp does but I was saying that if you want all those people to vote for your party calling them stupid is a bad idea.
Democrat party can also adopt the Nazi flag as it’s party sign and go around saying nazi stuff but it would tank any chance of winning elections for them.

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You obviously don't care when I'm illustrating a point & would rather perceive me as dead weight so I'll be ignoring you starting now. This is not a personal discussion, or it would be on another board.

You support the policy of extrajudicially killing minor drug offenders? Kthxbai.

I have no idea what your talking about.
I simiply disagree with seems to be your extreme left blind loyalty.
So if we can’t disagree then maybe it’s best you ignore me but I won’t ignore your posts and will post my disagreement as I won’t be silenced.
I don’t agree with everything trump does but compared to any democrat politician he’s my choose as he’s the closest to my idea politician there currently is.
I live in a democrat he’ll hold where they are about to make people felons for not locking their guns up but also make them felons if they do lock their guns up and someone similarly cuts the lock, cuts the safe open etch. Just one of many attacks on gun owners happening in my state. I hate democrat politicians and I hate the democrat party. I’m tired of their dictatorship totalitarian government. Oregon’s election is corrupt our government is corrupt. It’s all democrats. They pass every bill as if it’s an national emergency to not allow our democracy to vote on it. Our constitution of Oregon allows us to bring any law to public vote of every last Oregon citizen, but not if it’s a state of emergency. They are abusing the system to deny the people their vote and say, but I never hear you say anything about the corruption of democrats.
So as far as I can tell you’re just a hard core democrat who hates anything and anyone not democrat, maybe that’s not tru but it’s how you come across to me.
Maybe if I was in a corrupt republican state I’d have a different opinion but I’m in a corrupt democrat state where they’ve corrupted everything and deny people their free speech, right to vote, right to self protection, right to due process and not to be warrentless searches etc.
and there’s nothing we can do to stop them as they’ve rigged the system.

If gerrymandering is a problem in your eyes why the hell would you support either major party?

I vote for the green party, perhaps the more relaxed libertarians & the satirical candidates, I don't believe my vote is ever counted so I prefer it to make a statement.

Trump has been supportive of militarized police immediately killing any & all drug offenders in the Phillipines. Look it up.