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11 Apr 2019, 7:32 pm

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Correlation is not a scientific measure at all.


How do you think causation is discovered in the first place, particularly in the field of health?


That's called biochemistry.


Would you just read it already? The article even says "correlation is not causation". Further, correlation is how you find causation in epidemiology. There is a very strong, meaningful, correlation between long term cannabis usage and permanent, often violent mental health conditions. As you already stated (assuming wrongly that such a thing wasn't in the review) science knows very little about the brain and its functioning. Thus causation may never be conclusively proved, at least not any time soon and correlation is all we may ever have to go on when choosing our public health policies in this area. If we're wrong it could be[i] disastrous[/i


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11 Apr 2019, 7:33 pm

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Let me know if the book contains hard science that says I'm a dangerous psychopath.
Oh, c'mon! You're not a dangerous psychopath! Give the book a good read, and then chuck it in the river, if that's how you feel -- it's better to see both sides before passing judgement.
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I'll happily get myself stoned out of my mind once I retire to Margaritaville!



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11 Apr 2019, 7:39 pm

I'll probably give this a read sooner or later, considering I personally know multiple psych folks anyway. Yeah, they smoke too. :lol:

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Correlation is not a scientific measure at all.


How do you think causation is discovered in the first place, particularly in the field of health?


That's called biochemistry.


Would you just read it already? The article even says "correlation is not causation". Further, correlation is how you find causation in epidemiology. There is a very strong, meaningful, correlation between long term cannabis usage and permanent, often violent mental health conditions. As you already stated (assuming wrongly that such a thing wasn't in the review) science knows very little about the brain and its functioning. Thus causation may never be conclusively proved, at least not any time soon and correlation is all we may ever have to go on when choosing our public health policies in this area. If we're wrong it could be disastrous. If you'd actually read it you might be arguing against that position not the one you so lazily assumed was made. Instead you continue to make an arse of yourself. Carry on.


Any neuroscientist will tell you their field is in its' infancy. We know more about the surface of the moon or the bottom of the Marianas trench.

Causation in epidemeology is found using one of these, correlation only draws the maps.
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11 Apr 2019, 8:14 pm

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Would you just read it already? The article even says "correlation is not causation". Further, correlation is how you find causation in epidemiology. There is a very strong, meaningful, correlation between long term cannabis usage and permanent, often violent mental health conditions. As you already stated (assuming wrongly that such a thing wasn't in the review) science knows very little about the brain and its functioning. Thus causation may never be conclusively proved, at least not any time soon and correlation is all we may ever have to go on when choosing our public health policies in this area. If we're wrong it could be disastrous. If you'd actually read it you might be arguing against that position not the one you so lazily assumed was made. Instead you continue to make an arse of yourself. Carry on.


Any neuroscientist will tell you their field is in its' infancy. We know more about the surface of the moon or the bottom of the Marianas trench.

Causation in epidemeology is found using one of these, correlation only draws the maps.
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So you've agreed with what I've just said, restated it in different words and somehow made it look like a retort. You're not even reading my posts are you?

Argue against them at your peril. Your audience may learn something, but your opponents will not. Willful ignorance is the most powerful barrier to communication. It seals the human mind up like a fortress. You might as well read the works of Jean-Paul Sartre to a hungry walrus as try to debate with such people. I have attempted it. They don’t hear a word you say, but they hate you for getting in their way.


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11 Apr 2019, 8:18 pm

You haven't stopped insulting me in two pages & I'm the jackass?

Please stop espousing opium dependency.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/opioids/


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11 Apr 2019, 8:25 pm

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You haven't stopped insulting me


Which parts are insulting?


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11 Apr 2019, 8:25 pm

For one thing, use my handle.

Someone lock this thread before I let loose with the science.


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11 Apr 2019, 8:28 pm

I'm going to tell my children not to demean others by beating them over the head with austere philosophy.


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11 Apr 2019, 8:29 pm

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For one thing, use my handle, I'm not a f*****g walrus you pigeon.


Further proof you haven't read anything in this thread. The walrus is part of an analogy used in the review and in a post I just made to describe certain participants in this argument, which you'd understand, if you'd read any of it.


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11 Apr 2019, 8:30 pm

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I'm going to tell my children not to demean others by beating them over the head with austere philosophy.


BYE


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11 Apr 2019, 8:34 pm

Well you asked for it. Let's get back to reality.
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11 Apr 2019, 8:36 pm

Every chemical in that table & quite a lot more have been isolated from the plant with very encouraging clinical results.

We're talking about pediatric seizure prevention for the record.


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11 Apr 2019, 8:38 pm

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Someone lock this thread


Please don't lock the thread because cberg has soiled the bed. I'm happy to play along if you just delete his posts and we'll all pretend he didn't make a total fool of himself.


Mods? I'm going to eat dinner now.

I motion that this thread was started by walruses, for walruses.

It takes one to know one.


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11 Apr 2019, 8:49 pm

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Mods?


Read the whole thing before you judge, dear moderators. His inability to read the OP is surely manifest by his own posts and my comments justified.


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11 Apr 2019, 8:58 pm

Like I said, that's enough pseudoscience for today. I am not a second class citizen & I will tolerate your sh***y behavior to make sure others like me here are treated equally.

Medical marijuana has been fantastically effective for many of our ASD symptoms. I'm one of hundreds if not thousands on WP who've found substantial relief from this plant. You don't even have to get high to experience the benefits, I know you can buy non-psychoactive CBD & CBN all over the Internet. You'd do well to give it a try considering your black & white thinking on this subject.
https://www.wikileaf.com/thestash/cbd-isolate/


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11 Apr 2019, 8:58 pm

MODS please lock this thread.


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