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23 Apr 2019, 8:07 am

I don’t understand this attitude that people want to celebrate differences to such a ridiculous degree. Seems pretty simple to agree that dogs shouldn’t be eaten and we don’t like that. Why do we have to twist ourselves up in knots finding a way to make it okay?

You don’t like Western meat processing of livestock. Okay. Eating dogs is a different issue. We don’t have to solve the ethical meat processing problem before we solve the dog eating problem. We can totally protect dogs first and work on the rest next. And we are not forced to agree with it if we are not taking action.

I mean, come on.



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23 Apr 2019, 8:13 am

Why do "we" have to twist ourselves up in knots over whether or not someone else eats dog meat?

True, they meat should be obtained humanely, but unless we have control over the process, there is no point in getting worked up over it.


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23 Apr 2019, 10:12 am

https://www.change.org/p/south-korean-p ... igned=true


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23 Apr 2019, 10:21 am

I have a pet iguana, in many Latin countries they are on the menu.I don’t like it, but I also can’t really tell a hungry person in a third world country what to eat.It disgusts me to think people eat dogs,but I’ve also never been starving.As in really starving.A person in that situation will eat anything to survive.
We have a choice in the western world, we don’t have to eat meat if we don’t want to.There are more and more vegan options.Tasty options.
There is no incredible burger
available to the truly poor in Guatemala or Vietnam.
Now I value the live of my four dogs way over a chicken,the chicken would have another opinion on that.
I come from the land of Tyson’s,
ride behind a poultry truck and visit a chicken house.Its not nice, not nice at all.


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23 Apr 2019, 11:10 pm

Fnord wrote:
Okay ...

So the crisis has been identified and blame has been assigned.

Now, what is anyone going to actually do about it?


Try it for ourselves of course! My girlfriend says it's delicious!


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23 Apr 2019, 11:57 pm

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Factory farms are just as bad,animals kicked and beaten before slaughter.
I don’t like the idea of dogs being eaten at all,the torture they go thru before death is awful.If you have to eat an animal,it should at least have a quick clean death and decent living conditions.
For people who travel to Vietnam,most of the dog meat is in the North.The South is a much better place to visit.The climate is better and people friendlier.It is actually cold in north and the town of Sapa, (not sure if that’s spelled right),gets snow.You will see dogs roasting in the villages in the north,also its best to eat vegan if you visit,people have accidentally ate dog meat.

Or just never go to viet nam
I’ll take it off my dream trip.


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24 Apr 2019, 12:02 am

Misslizard wrote:
I have a pet iguana, in many Latin countries they are on the menu.I don’t like it, but I also can’t really tell a hungry person in a third world country what to eat.It disgusts me to think people eat dogs,but I’ve also never been starving.As in really starving.A person in that situation will eat anything to survive.
We have a choice in the western world, we don’t have to eat meat if we don’t want to.There are more and more vegan options.Tasty options.
There is no incredible burger
available to the truly poor in Guatemala or Vietnam.
Now I value the live of my four dogs way over a chicken,the chicken would have another opinion on that.
I come from the land of Tyson’s,
ride behind a poultry truck and visit a chicken house.Its not nice, not nice at all.

Problem is many aren’t starving and do it cause they like the taste and enjoy it.
It’s not like starving and having to eat your horse to live.
Imagine if eating humans becomes popular in some nation bet that’ll be stoped real quick with a war.


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24 Apr 2019, 1:30 am

/\Some older people eat it because they think it’s healthy, they probably do like the taste because they grew up eating it.
For some yes, they are hungry and there isn’t a Costco and they wouldn’t have the money if there was. The poor still use it as a way to generate income.There are many people in dire poverty in certain regions of Asia.
Warning:Don’t click the link if you don’t want to see dog meat.
https://www.ucanews.com/news/mans-best- ... vive/83369
We eat pigs and they are as smart as a dog, just not as cute.


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24 Apr 2019, 2:24 am

Pepe wrote:
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I detect the hand of PETA in this ... the exaggeration and hyperbole gives it away ...


You are presumptuous and wrong, again...
Read my post after yours...
I know nothing about PETA...
I prefer to stick my head in the sand in most incidences because I find the brutality of life too distressing...
I refuse to look at live streaming of Christchurch style atrocities...
I refuse to look at videos of beheadings and terrorist immolation of its victims...
And I refuse to look at podcasts of atrocities involving hapless animals...

Please explain where I am using hyperbole...
And please explain how you can be so callous...
Autistics are known to have an incredible affinity towards animals...
I am no exception...


I believe Fnord is referring to the article you posted containing hyperbole, that might stim from the PETA organisation.

What do you know about it other than what you're reading on the internet?



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24 Apr 2019, 9:10 am

EzraS wrote:
I believe Fnord is referring to the article you posted containing hyperbole, that might stem from the PETA organisation.
This is correct.

Thank you.


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24 Apr 2019, 9:24 am

Illegal dog farm.Help shut it down.
https://www.change.org/p/goyang-mayor-l ... igned=true


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24 Apr 2019, 9:32 am

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Sure. I'll post a strongly-worded letter to the New York Times, drive up to Los Angeles, sit outside the South Korean Consulate, and yell at passing cars.

THAT ought to show them!


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24 Apr 2019, 9:56 am

Fnord wrote:
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Sure. I'll post a strongly-worded letter to the New York Times, drive up to Los Angeles, sit outside the South Korean Consulate, and yell at passing cars.

THAT ought to show them!

Didn’t ask you to do that, you know better.If you don’t want to sign , then don’t.Im just giving people an option if they want to TRY and help.Maybe it makes a difference, maybe not. but I’d rather click a petition than sit on my hands.


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24 Apr 2019, 10:00 am

I signed.

But the petition service then asked me to give them money ... then asked me to sign another petition ... then asked me to give them more money ... then asked me to sign another petition ...


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24 Apr 2019, 10:05 am

Yeah the money thing is annoying.Thanks for signing anyway.


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25 Apr 2019, 9:25 pm

I really don't get people who want to go on and on about how "cruel" the dog meat industry is, but have no issue with the pork, beef, dairy, poultry, or egg industries. What's the difference? All these industries treat the animals like s**t and then slaughter them. The only difference between dogs and farm animals is that people actually seem to care more about dogs being killed for meat.