Do You Have the Same Politics or Religion You Grew Up With?
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Judging by your avatar, I thought you were Santa Clause.
i am the clause of santa claus,
Judging by your avatar, I thought you were Santa Clause.
i am the clause of santa claus,
I hope I am not going too far with my joking, à la Ricky Gervais.
You said you were in the army.
Did you enlist in the MK Ultra program?
FYI. I was a committed Christian until was 20.
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Judging by your avatar, I thought you were Santa Clause.
i am the clause of santa claus,
I hope I am not going too far with my joking, à la Ricky Gervais. You said you were in the army. Did you enlist in the MK Ultra program?
no worries
I hope I am not going too far with my joking, à la Ricky Gervais. You said you were in the army. Did you enlist in the MK Ultra program?
no worries
The "joke" was that MK Ultra involved things such as mind-control/brainwashing/psychotropic-drugs/Manchurian-candidates.
They experimented on military personnel in America in the 50s.
It is an atheistic joke enquiring whether or not your mind has been altered through mind-control because you embraced religion.
I know.
I'm a little devil.
Do you know of Ricky Gervais?
The operation was officially sanctioned in 1953, was reduced in scope in 1964, further curtailed in 1967, and recorded to be halted in 1973. The program engaged in many illegal activities,[5][6][7] including the use of U.S. and Canadian citizens as its unwitting test subjects, which led to controversy regarding its legitimacy.[5](p74)[8][9][10] MKUltra used numerous methods to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis,[11][12] sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, and other forms of torture.[13][14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
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I know. I'm a little devil.
we all have our moments. i have heard of MK Ultra in recent years from listening to the "Coast to Coast" radio show. for all i know some spook coulda slipped me some rough stuff in a drink or a spray somewhere sometime. i've heard of Ricky Gervais but truth be told i haven't noticed much of him, i watch very little tv.
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I grew up in a blue collar union house hold that was always Pro-Democrat, but otherwise had certain more conservative ideas. Religiously, my parents were conservative Missouri Synod Lutherans, though my dad was also not afraid of science.
Today, I imagine my parents would think I had gone far to the left politically. While I still attend the same Missouri Synod Lutheran congregation I had grown up in, I have made it clear that I am at odds with the church body's views on evolution, the age of the earth, as well as social issues such as LGBT rights.
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I used to be much more socially conservative when I was younger but as I've gotten older, I grew more libertarian so I see myself more of a libertarian/conservative/nationalist. I guess maybe I'd be a Barry Goldwater type, "South Park Republican" and/or U.S. Constitutionalist. I am very pro "borders, language and culture," support the 2nd Amendment but there are times we stick our noses around the world a little too much, I don't have a problem with GLBT marriage, I don't have a problem if one wants a little weed, or even a welfare state for those who need help. Just leave me and others alone and I'll leave you alone, unless one tries to impose their will to others.
Today, I imagine my parents would think I had gone far to the left politically. While I still attend the same Missouri Synod Lutheran congregation I had grown up in, I have made it clear that I am at odds with the church body's views on evolution, the age of the earth, as well as social issues such as LGBT rights.
I'm a baptised Lutheran myself, took Mom's side, but yeah, on the evolution thing, I believe in both sides where intelligent design could have been behind some of the evolving process but that's just me. Age of the Earth, I agree too although the 6000 year thing would cover most of written history but the Universe is a lot older than that.
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Today, I imagine my parents would think I had gone far to the left politically. While I still attend the same Missouri Synod Lutheran congregation I had grown up in, I have made it clear that I am at odds with the church body's views on evolution, the age of the earth, as well as social issues such as LGBT rights.
I'm a baptised Lutheran myself, took Mom's side, but yeah, on the evolution thing, I believe in both sides where intelligent design could have been behind some of the evolving process but that's just me. Age of the Earth, I agree too although the 6000 year thing would cover most of written history but the Universe is a lot older than that.
Which Lutheran church body?
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I think I've gotten a bit more liberal than a lot of my family but I'm still an LCMS Lutheran.
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Today, I imagine my parents would think I had gone far to the left politically. While I still attend the same Missouri Synod Lutheran congregation I had grown up in, I have made it clear that I am at odds with the church body's views on evolution, the age of the earth, as well as social issues such as LGBT rights.
I'm a baptised Lutheran myself, took Mom's side, but yeah, on the evolution thing, I believe in both sides where intelligent design could have been behind some of the evolving process but that's just me. Age of the Earth, I agree too although the 6000 year thing would cover most of written history but the Universe is a lot older than that.
Which Lutheran church body?
ELCA I do believe. That was the church I was baptised into when I lived in the Pittsburgh area. I'm in Eastern Ohio now, still near Pittsburgh. I'm looking for one, the one I'm looking at, I' not sure of. I know there is the ECLA, the Missouri Synod and the Wisconsin Synod, I think.
Communism has a lot of historical baggage...
I am assuming you are aware of that?
Capitalism and all its associated political schools of thought have alot more.
I am right of center when you average me out but my stances on some of the social issues, I've been accused of being "too liberal." I even got kicked from Free Republic, I guess I'm too much of a libertarian.
It used to usually work the other way around.
I am right of center when you average me out but my stances on some of the social issues, I've been accused of being "too liberal." I even got kicked from Free Republic, I guess I'm too much of a libertarian.
I'm right of centre with some liberal sympathies, also.
I guess we are individuals. <shrug>
Communism has a lot of historical baggage...
I am assuming you are aware of that?
Capitalism and all its associated political schools of thought have alot more.
More than tens of millions of deaths?
I am not sure I agree.
Stalin was a much more effective murderer in terms of numbers than you know hoo...
Please let us not further bring up "he who shall not be named".
OK, I will: Voldemort.
The transition from "socialism" too "capitalism" of my country resulted in unseen economic growth that also helped with some social issues...
"Capitalism" as market-oriented economy is more efficient than most alternatives.
"Capitalism" as social philosophy promoting greed is dysfunctional.
My husband's theory on school shootings:
In Poland, frustrated teenagers steal vodka from their parents' cupboards and get dead drunk.
In USA, frustrated teenagers steal guns from their parents' cupboards and shoot dead their peers.
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