Ebenezer Scrooge is the victim in ACC, not the villian.
have you considered looking at the time and place Dickens was writing in and about?
Dickens is a critic of capitalism, because he saw unfettered laissez-faire capitalism emerge all around him.
Child labour, eversything covered in soot from smoke stacks, the working class living in abject poverty - these weren't inventions of Dickens'.
Reading Dickens, you won't necessarily understand late 20th century America, but you should turn towards iPhone factories in China or the textile industry in Bangladesh.
And maybe, maybe, be aware of how that is not fictional, and really how things went down in the past whenever there were no institutions to effectively reign in profit-seeking.
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In a Christmas Carol Dickens was presaging both Marx, and Freud.
On one hand the story is about class struggle in Victorian England in the early days of the Industrial Revolution. The same thing Marx and Engels wrote about.
But more important: the story is also about how Scrooge became Scrooge. The ghosts force him to go into his past and explore formative events in his life - in essence- the ghosts act like modern psychotherapists.
On one hand the story is about class struggle in Victorian England in the early days of the Industrial Revolution. The same thing Marx and Engels wrote about.
But more important: the story is also about how Scrooge became Scrooge. The ghosts force him to go into his past and explore formative events in his life - in essence- the ghosts act like modern psychotherapists.
Wow. Yeah. You're right.
I have only recently read Freud and understood that he was the first to explicitly state that childhood development forms adult personality - but you're right that Dickens did sort of a similar thing here (though not so much childhood development, but still).
Thanks
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well i dont know about you but we are dealing with a fall of rome or athens scenario here in america
from faraway nobody knows who managed america like this
a closer look at this hideous juggernaut nobody knows who managed america like this 
an even closer look nobody knows who managed america like this it seems all it produces is massive amount of historical garbage

when will the scourge come to an end ??

[/quoteThis picture and sentiment does not accurately depict capitalism. Those men can always quit if they want to and find a less difficult job (believe me there are many) and if they cannot then it is slavery and not capitalism, which is a voluntary endeavor.
Yeah, the first picture is more like big business entwined with big government, I call them "Big Governess." In some ways, it can be ALMOST as bad a pure socialism, but nothing is perfect. Still, I'd take capitalism above all, as imperfectly can be at times, most other systems are worse in my opinion. Nothing is perfect either.
I am poor, I do not make a lot of money.... but I personally have a job at a private business that I am paid to do and I can say that it definitely does not "implicitly kill" me, but rather explicitly improve my life. If you want to see true implicit killing, look at a Venezuela and North Korea; places that neo-Marxist would have us be more like.

[/quoteThis picture and sentiment does not accurately depict capitalism. Those men can always quit if they want to and find a less difficult job (believe me there are many) and if they cannot then it is slavery and not capitalism, which is a voluntary endeavor.
Yeah, the first picture is more like big business entwined with big government, I call them "Big Governess." In some ways, it can be ALMOST as bad a pure socialism, but nothing is perfect. Still, I'd take capitalism above all, as imperfectly can be at times, most other systems are worse in my opinion. Nothing is perfect either.
I am poor, I do not make a lot of money.... but I personally have a job at a private business that I am paid to do and I can say that it definitely does not "implicitly kill" me, but rather explicitly improve my life. If you want to see true implicit killing, look at a Venezuela and North Korea; places that neo-Marxist would have us be more like.
looks fun there
I see what you mean but I'll pass,heck, I can do the same thing at the waterpark in Pittsburgh.
Well, I should comment on the subject of the thread since we kind of hijacked it, as to Mr. Scrooge, yeah, I did not agree with Scrooge in the beginning, but I've always said that people do have the right to be jerks.
