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06 Jun 2019, 8:32 am

I sense that she withholds certain "favors" from Donald.....



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06 Jun 2019, 8:40 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I sense that she withholds certain "favors" from Donald.....

Maybe. Just like Margaery from Game of Thrones, she has kind of a disturbing control over an abusive narcissist.


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06 Jun 2019, 9:10 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I sense that she withholds certain "favors" from Donald.....


It’s a wonder she doesn’t withhold it all although I suppose that it is part of their business arrangement (i.e. marriage)...


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06 Jun 2019, 9:18 am

Maybe she is to Trump what Eva Braun was to Hitler? :chin:


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06 Jun 2019, 9:41 am

.... Maybe she's a regular person who didn't ask for her husband to be president, who is shy and uncomfortable in the political spotlight, who devotes herself to raising her (quite possibly autistic) son, and who deserves some empathy --especially from people who are equally shy in social situations?

Maybe the pros and cons of her femininity and / or sexuality and personality shouldn't be critiqued or second guessed by people who don't know her?

Maybe she should have some privacy?

Just a thought.


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06 Jun 2019, 9:47 am

I agree with Isabella's take on it.



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06 Jun 2019, 9:56 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I agree with Isabella's take on it.


I'm sick of people being judged and shamed for their gender role, or whether they conform to society's expectation.

Why can't this woman be a role model?
Is it because she's shy and dignified, and raises her son attentively, while seeking privacy?

Is she a frigid narcissist, just because she has different values than the media expects?

I thought we'd come further than this in the 21st Century.


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06 Jun 2019, 10:14 am

I agree with you Izzy. I think she's most likely a decent person who's real loyalties are to her family. I don't blame her for that at all.

And as I said before, there's nothing at all "weak" about being feminine! Pretty flowers have their strengths too! :flower:

Edit: And so do fruits like me! :mrgreen:


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06 Jun 2019, 10:18 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
I agree with you Izzy. I think she's most likely a decent person who's real loyalties are to her family. I don't blame her for that at all.

And as I said before, there's nothing at all "weak" about being feminine! Pretty flowers have their strengths too! :flower:



Thanks, TWIZ !

Judgmental, sexist rhetoric like that gets my blood boiling. :skull:


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06 Jun 2019, 10:20 am

Donald Trump isn’t that great as far as women or children (immigrants who were separated from their families) are concerned. He seems remarkably unpleasant but has a lot of money and married a former model...


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06 Jun 2019, 10:26 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
I agree with you Izzy. I think she's most likely a decent person who's real loyalties are to her family. I don't blame her for that at all.

And as I said before, there's nothing at all "weak" about being feminine! Pretty flowers have their strengths too! :flower:



Thanks, TWIZ !

Judgmental, sexist rhetoric like that gets my blood boiling. :skull:


And as for my comparing her to Margaery Tyrell from Game of Thrones, I guess I should have mentioned that I LIKE Margaery! Margaery may have been phony in her attitudes towards like the people (like 90% of all politicians), BUT she was very smart and clever and knew how to keep her cool in the company of crazy psychopaths like the Lannisters and she somehow brought out the best in her fiance Joffrey.

I guess in a symbolic way I'm hoping that the Carnation will influence the Eagle for the better the same way that the Rose influenced the Lion in Game of Thrones. But that was a fantasy TV show, it probably wont work that way in real life...

Or maybe it will? :chin:


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06 Jun 2019, 10:36 am

TW!Z,
No worries! I know where you stand about gender, and you know I've never even seen GOT.

I just wish people would stop judging others by arbitrary constructs such as "feminine" or "masculine", or arguing about it.

Live and let live!


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06 Jun 2019, 10:39 am

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TW!Z,
No worries! I know where you stand about gender, and you know I've never even seen GOT.

I just wish people would stop judging others by arbitrary constructs such as "feminine" or "masculine", or arguing about it.

Live and let live!

Agreed! Live and let live! :)

But still, I find Melania Trump fascinating. :chin:


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06 Jun 2019, 10:40 am

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Donald Trump ... has a lot of money and is married a former model.
This may be one of the few instances where correlation not only implies causation, but it actually proves that they are one and the same!!


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06 Jun 2019, 10:53 am

Fnord wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Donald Trump ... has a lot of money and is married a former model.
This may be one of the few instances where correlation not only implies causation, but it actually proves that they are one and the same!!

Priest: "Let it be known that Donald of House Trump and Melania of House Knauss are one heart, one flesh, one soul. Cursed be he who would seek to tear them asunder!"

President Donald Trump: "With this kiss, I pledge my love!"

Ex-Wife Ivana Trump: "We have our First Lady."

Former First Lady Michelle Obama: "Better her than you."

:king: :heart: :queen:


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06 Jun 2019, 11:33 am

Butterflies are free to fly...fly away....fly away....