San Francisco is the result of full Democrat control

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26 Aug 2019, 4:52 am

San Francisco was my favorite city in the world ten years ago, because of its great food, walkability, trolly cars and easily procured cannabis, but even when I visited it then, homeless folk were coming up to ask me for money or to sell me their Homeless Peoples newspaper. I did not give money, because that behavior is not something I think is acceptable. However, I did purchase pot from the homeless folk I met in the park. I purchased half an ounce, and it was some of the finest sativa. So I did not mind the homeless after that.

However, it struck me as strange that a city tolerated people living on the streets and just outside of private homes, using the sidewalks as their bathroom and taking what they need from the private homes, the cars parked on the street, the mailboxes and accosting the people walking to work. I think that it is neither hygienic nor safe to permit that, but I suspect that liberals are afraid of being accused of racism, fascism, capitalism, or some other ism. There is such a thing as being too nice. In the final analysis, a city must be orderly, safe, and clean. Maybe relocate the homeless and jobless to rural camps, and find low-cost housing for those with employment. I am sure there would be loud shouts against fascism and capitalism if such a planned were suggested. How dare you force people to move from their sidewalk, etc.


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26 Aug 2019, 5:02 am

^^^hiya Gentleman :) welcome to our club 8)
in seattle there is an increasingly vocal cohort of righties who want to send all the homeless to mcneil island pen. as prisoners.



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26 Aug 2019, 5:22 am

I’m going to San Francisco on the 27th of September.

I went there in 2015. There were homeless people. Nobody bothered me.



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26 Aug 2019, 5:31 am

i was last there in 1993. a lovely city, the biggest little city in the world [or is it the littlest big city?], a 5 by 5 mile square of social ease and culture, but only for the financially talented. lovely weather, temperate 99% of the time. if you don't like the weather, wait a few minutes. i never saw clouds zoom over a city with more fleetness than over san fran, it was like somebody hit the fast scan forward button. no real places to park, much worse than seattle in that respect. hilly as the dickens. the bulk of the residents are so highly educated and so high-IQ, they can't really relate to joe lunchbucket.



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26 Aug 2019, 9:11 am

So are these the so called "limousine liberals"?

Rich Democrats who pretend to care about the "little people"?


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26 Aug 2019, 9:14 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
So are these the so called "limousine liberals"? Democrat rich people who pretend to care about the "little people"?
Yes, they and the "Latte Liberals" -- middle-class Democrats pretending to be rich while also pretending to care about the "little people" whose homes they just bought out.



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26 Aug 2019, 6:11 pm

auntblabby wrote:
^^^hiya Gentleman :) welcome to our club 8)
in seattle there is an increasingly vocal cohort of righties who want to send all the homeless to mcneil island pen. as prisoners.


Thank you for the welcome. I confess to some trepidation here as I do not want to get marked as either a liberal or a conservative. I'm right-wing on some issues but left-wing on others and libertarian when it comes to Joe Lunchbox. But I have seen large tent communities in Los Angeles right next to people's houses, and the homeless defecate on people's driveways and break and enter, do other crime, shoot up drugs and leave the needles for kids to pick up. I don't know that is any kind of real solution. It is embarrassing for the Democratic party that these type of problems afflict Democratic strongholds and that sort of thing can cost national elections.


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26 Aug 2019, 6:18 pm

I have tried not to politicize this, but more is definitely expected of the Dems when it comes to affordable housing, since much of their platform is being pro-lower/middle-income people.

I was impressed with Minneapolis-St. Paul, been there a few times. One of the most educated cities in the country, very clean, progressive.

Oh, but the winters...


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26 Aug 2019, 6:37 pm

Gentleman Argentum wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^hiya Gentleman :) welcome to our club 8)
in seattle there is an increasingly vocal cohort of righties who want to send all the homeless to mcneil island pen. as prisoners.


Thank you for the welcome. I confess to some trepidation here as I do not want to get marked as either a liberal or a conservative. I'm right-wing on some issues but left-wing on others and libertarian when it comes to Joe Lunchbox. But I have seen large tent communities in Los Angeles right next to people's houses, and the homeless defecate on people's driveways and break and enter, do other crime, shoot up drugs and leave the needles for kids to pick up. I don't know that is any kind of real solution. It is embarrassing for the Democratic party that these type of problems afflict Democratic strongholds and that sort of thing can cost national elections.


Oh you shouldn't have said that. You have to support the Democrats no matter how horrific their policies are.


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27 Aug 2019, 4:36 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Gentleman Argentum wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^hiya Gentleman :) welcome to our club 8)
in seattle there is an increasingly vocal cohort of righties who want to send all the homeless to mcneil island pen. as prisoners.


Thank you for the welcome. I confess to some trepidation here as I do not want to get marked as either a liberal or a conservative. I'm right-wing on some issues but left-wing on others and libertarian when it comes to Joe Lunchbox. But I have seen large tent communities in Los Angeles right next to people's houses, and the homeless defecate on people's driveways and break and enter, do other crime, shoot up drugs and leave the needles for kids to pick up. I don't know that is any kind of real solution. It is embarrassing for the Democratic party that these type of problems afflict Democratic strongholds and that sort of thing can cost national elections.


Oh you shouldn't have said that. You have to support the Democrats no matter how horrific their policies are.


I like some Democrats, like Elizabeth Warren, who points out the corruption in corporate America and especially pharmaceutical companies. Republicans stay quiet about things like that, I guess out of faith in Social Darwinism. She is really admirable, and I don't care about the Pocahontas thing at all, it was long ago and Trump has worse on his record. He keeps attacking others, because if he paused, all his many flaws and goofs would be attacked. It is a good strategy on his part.

I have a Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs for my politics. More fairness and justice is nice, but I need safety and order first. Now that I'm getting to be an old man, I need safety more, and fairness, I sort of just have adjusted my expectations. If the Democrats turn a blind eye to homeless drug addicts camped outside my door, and say the police cannot interfere with their freedom to defecate on the street, that could turn me into a Republican pretty quick. It is scary to think of folk like that just hanging around, we are back to barbarian times in the Dark Ages. I think the rights of others end where public safety and hygiene begins. I just don't know what is wrong with L.A. and San Fran, they could be great cities again one day, it saddens me. The left can point to unfairness, and yes many things are unfair, but in the first place, we need order. I am also sad about Michigan and Detroit. It seems reasonable to blame the politicians, when the city goes bankrupt, crime spirals out of control or the water can't be drunk.


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27 Aug 2019, 3:21 pm

She was going with the claim that she was Native American until the test came back and proved she was lying the whole time. She's a fraud that is being pushed as some kind of progressive. Trump will obliterate her.


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27 Aug 2019, 5:40 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
She was going with the claim that she was Native American until the test came back and proved she was lying the whole time. She's a fraud that is being pushed as some kind of progressive. Trump will obliterate her.

Personally I don't think she was lying, or why would she take the test? Someone lied to her, and she believed them I think. She thought she was going to get a cool million off Trump.



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27 Aug 2019, 7:08 pm

i know for a bloody fact, that if the GOP were in control, they'd do more juvenile sht like put 'em on buses and send 'em to other cities [this happens for a fact!], ban charities from offering them food [ft. lauderdale et al], chase them all over the place. how humane is that? the democratic way leaves lots to be desired but at least it is not outright evil.



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27 Aug 2019, 10:39 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
She was going with the claim that she was Native American until the test came back and proved she was lying the whole time. She's a fraud that is being pushed as some kind of progressive. Trump will obliterate her.


Nope:

https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2018/10/ ... s-running/


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27 Aug 2019, 11:05 pm

Look at whole states run by Republicans, where education, wages, medical care, opportunity, etc, are at the bottom of the list of all fifty states.


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