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26 Oct 2019, 6:52 pm

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But if you really want to see a civil war, there are always vacation packages to Israel and neighboring countries


DRC gets no mention? There’s your civil war right there.


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26 Oct 2019, 6:55 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Bravo5150 wrote:
But if you really want to see a civil war, there are always vacation packages to Israel and neighboring countries


DRC gets no mention? There’s your civil war right there.


Can you spell out DRC? Do you mean Democrat/Republican Convention?



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26 Oct 2019, 6:57 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Bravo5150 wrote:
But if you really want to see a civil war, there are always vacation packages to Israel and neighboring countries


DRC gets no mention? There’s your civil war right there.


Can you spell out DRC? Do you mean Democrat/Republican Convention?


Democratic Republic of the Congo


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26 Oct 2019, 7:01 pm

It would be like China during its various "warring states" periods when each province was its own country.

Iowa would have to support its own military to defend its borders against invasion by Minnesota, and Nebraska. And so on. All interstate commerce would become international trade, and subject to tariffs. Hobbling the economies of each of the fifty states. I don't see any upside to it. Just wars and poverty.



If states banded together to form large regional countries with parts of the US joining parts of Canada (the Maritime Provinces merging with New England say) then you might have some interesting changes that might work culturally and economically.



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26 Oct 2019, 7:08 pm

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It would be like China during its various "warring states" periods when each province was its own country.

Iowa would have to support its own military to defend its borders against invasion by Minnesota, and Nebraska. And so on. All interstate commerce would become international trade, and subject to tariffs. Hobbling the economies of each of the fifty states. I don't see any upside to it. Just wars and poverty.



If states banded together to form large regional countries with parts of the US joining parts of Canada (the Maritime Provinces merging with New England say) then you might have some interesting changes that might work culturally and economically.


And you forgot to mention how Utah would be overrun in a week by invading forces. All of their guards would be too busy procreating.



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26 Oct 2019, 7:43 pm

You sorta have a civil way here in Pennsylvania. You have 2 major cities, on either side of the state, essentially speaking a foreign language, that hate each other, divided by the Amish/Mennonites, further divided by the coal workers and the farmers!



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26 Oct 2019, 9:00 pm

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You sorta have a civil way here in Pennsylvania. You have 2 major cities, on either side of the state, essentially speaking a foreign language, that hate each other, divided by the Amish/Mennonites, further divided by the coal workers and the farmers!


That sounds like Afghanistan for the last 40 years.


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27 Oct 2019, 12:30 am

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I am illegally (or is that undocumentedly) immigrating to Washington State, because I am sure Texas will be the evangelical Christian version of Saudi Arabia.


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27 Oct 2019, 12:33 am

I would expect leagues of state forming alliances based on geography and shared culture. I'd expect the west coast states of California, Washington, and Oregon joining together.


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27 Oct 2019, 7:22 am

Bravo5150 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
It would be like China during its various "warring states" periods when each province was its own country.

Iowa would have to support its own military to defend its borders against invasion by Minnesota, and Nebraska. And so on. All interstate commerce would become international trade, and subject to tariffs. Hobbling the economies of each of the fifty states. I don't see any upside to it. Just wars and poverty.



If states banded together to form large regional countries with parts of the US joining parts of Canada (the Maritime Provinces merging with New England say) then you might have some interesting changes that might work culturally and economically.


And you forgot to mention how Utah would be overrun in a week by invading forces. All of their guards would be too busy procreating.


Mormons don't do it anymore than anyone else. They just don't use protection. On one hand Utah (and Nevada) have low population densities. So any armies they would raise would be easily overwhelmed by their bigger population neighbors. But on the flipside - Utah is a desert that no one would bother to conquer. So it evens out. Utah might remain independent. In fact it could even be a thorn in the side of its neighbors.

Utah (from what I gather from refuges from that state) is already heavily Mormon dominated. It would revert to the even more thoroughly theocratic culture it had in the old west days. And Mormon culture spills over the state lines into Idaho and northern Arizona (the most fanatical polygamous Mormon community is Colorado City in northern Arizona). So there would be irredentist movements in neighboring states by Mormons seaking unity with the Utah fatherland (kinda like the Sudetenland Germans in Czechoslavakia). Utah would demand slices of Idaho, Arizona, and maybe Nevada. Causing wars with its neighbors.



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27 Oct 2019, 8:11 am

I imagine Georgia would be absorbed into the rest of the southeastern states and seeing how this is the "bible belt" it would turn into a kind of theocracy. They would reinstate the sodomy laws making homosexuality illegal again and church attendance would be forced under law. All our laws would be based on the bible. I also could see racist attitudes resurfacing out in the open but I doubt they would actually bring slavery back. There are so many black people living in the south, some of them are governors or mayors. We also have plenty of black sheriffs and military soldiers. So if the new government tried to bring back slavery there would be a violent race war between whites and the people of color and I doubt anybody wants that.

But on the bright side we have a lot of farms and people who know how to hunt and fish so at least we would not starve. :D

...I probably would since i dont know how to hunt or fish. :lol:



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27 Oct 2019, 8:45 am

I wonder if New England would band together as one country or if they would be six different countries.There is a lot of conflict between the New England states,New England is like the balkans of America.

Vermont,New Hampshire and Maine hate Boston and Massachusetts and most of Connecticut is loyal to New York.Rhode Island might side with Mass and Boston but I don't know about the rest of New England.Were like the balkans of America.


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27 Oct 2019, 10:59 am

I guess Hawaii would go back to being its own country. :)



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27 Oct 2019, 11:23 am

Putin would snap up Alaska, and put it back into the Russian Empire.

And, yeah Hawaii...

Would be left to its own devices, and would return to being its own little kingdom.



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27 Oct 2019, 11:31 am

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And, yeah Hawaii...

Would be left to its own devices, and would return to being its own little kingdom.


Maybe I could save a billion dollars and move there, returning to my Hawaiian roots? I'll be trading Cherokee Roses for Hibiscus. :flower:



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27 Oct 2019, 12:33 pm

You have Polynesian/Hawaiian ancestry?

And Cherokee ancestry?

Interesting.

Maybe you could do that.

Actually Hawaii is a rather strategic spot for dominating the Pacific. Japan, China, and ...California, would probably end up fighting over it.