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How much do you like the royal family?
I like them 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
I like them 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
I dont mind them 25%  25%  [ 17 ]
I dont mind them 25%  25%  [ 17 ]
I hate them 19%  19%  [ 13 ]
I hate them 19%  19%  [ 13 ]
Total votes : 68

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02 Jul 2005, 2:23 am

William on the throne "Free Spliffs to everyone!"

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The royals arn't that bad, but we shouldn't be paying for em. Let them actually WORK for their money.


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02 Jul 2005, 2:24 am

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If you are from britain, or are just interested in these things, please answer to ths poll. I hate the royal family. I think we deserve a competent head of state. I also think that they shouldnt get money out of taxes. Taxes should go to useful things like hospitals or schools.

Competent eh? Like that prick Blair? Hmm...

As for taxes, I reckon the royal family are net contributers to our economy. I can't back that up with figures; just a feeling!



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02 Jul 2005, 2:26 am

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The royals arn't that bad, but we shouldn't be paying for em. Let them actually WORK for their money.

Well, I think the Queen does substantially more than any of those elected idiots at the House of Commons.



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02 Jul 2005, 2:37 am

I never met them so I don't know.

I don't think about them.



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02 Jul 2005, 4:28 am

ascan wrote:
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I hate the royal family, and the ingrained system of landed privilege and influence which they represent, and which their continued status perpetuates. The royal family are an anachronism and have no more place in a democratic society than the lord of the manor, serfs or hereditary peers with voting rights. :evil:

And anachronisms make Britain what it is, don't they? It certainly pulls in tourists, and there are plenty of people happy about that.


Do you actually know anyone who has visited Britain because the royal family live there?

ascan wrote:
SOK wrote:
If you are from britain, or are just interested in these things, please answer to ths poll. I hate the royal family. I think we deserve a competent head of state. I also think that they shouldnt get money out of taxes. Taxes should go to useful things like hospitals or schools.

Competent eh? Like that prick Blair? Hmm...


I know, he is a prick, but he does more than the queen, even if most of that is copying george bush.



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02 Jul 2005, 5:30 am

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Do you actually know anyone who has visited Britain because the royal family live there?

No, but I don't know many people.

I think the yanks are quite keen on the royals, and anyway, it's just one thing that makes Britain what it is. A bit like the white cliffs of Dover, Edinburgh Castle or Big Ben. People don't come here for the weather!

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... but he does more than the queen, even if most of that is copying george bush.

Well, I don't agree with that, but it was quite amusing. :lol:



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02 Jul 2005, 8:14 pm

The Royal Family is okay, but quite weird.



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18 Jul 2008, 2:06 pm

Strikes me that very few people here have much idea about what role the monarchy plays, nor how much it costs/earns.

Last year we paid about 66p per person to fund the monarchy. Thats sixty six new pence PER TAXPAYER.. .. a year. Yes.. A YEAR.. 66p.. I dont know about you, but 66p buys me... about half a loaf of bread. I lose more than that down my sofa. It wont buy me half a coke in a pub. Its nothing.. chump change. Bugger all. So stop complaining. Thats about 50 quid in a lifetime.. My f*****g council tax is more than that and they wont even empty the bloody bins.

Now go and google all the s**t that useless scots dictator wastes on pointless events. How much does it cost to charter a jumbo to japan and back? How much does it cost to tell stab-happy murdering bastards that stabbing people is bad? Whats the electricity bill for whitehall come to these days, given they leave the lights on all the time... ?

Brown and his predecessors have sucked us dry of money, and continue to do so, day in and day out, for a damn sight more than sixty f*****g pence a year. So, we shall hear no more about how expensive HRH is, because it is quite literally a drop in the ocean. How much do you think "President Blair" would have cost us? I'll wager its a fuckload more than 60p a year each.

For our money, we happen to get pretty much the most famous woman in the world, a woman with actual character.. not some identikit lying politician, and a figurehead. I would rather cry "for queen and country" than "for brown and someone elses country"...

We get an unbroken line of tradition, pomp and splendour that goes back to the time of Alfred the Great. (History, yknow..all that old stuff. We've got loads of it lying about the place. I've lived in houses older than some nations of the world.. hell, I own items that predate the US for example.) We like history, and its nice to have it. HRH provides a sense of stability and continuity with that history.

HRH decides when to dissolve parliament, and decides who should be appointed prime minister, something that could prove helpful in the case of hung election results. She is focus for national identity, unity and pride. She officially recognises success and excellence and supports the ideal of public and voluntary services. She represents us as a nation on the international stage. In a worst case scenario she can even protect us from the worst excesses of our elected government.

She is hardly workshy. Every day of every year, after first wading through personal correspondence from her subjects, HRH receives policy papers, Cabinet documents, telegrams, letters and other State papers. All of these papers have to be read approved and signed. Then she might hold audience with overseas ambassadors and high commissioners, newly appointed British ambassadors, senior members of the Armed Forces and English bishops and judges on their appointment. She might also meet a number of people who have won prizes or awards in a variety of fields such as literature or science. Lets not forget advising her secretary on what to write in response to all those personal letters.

Do you do as much BEFORE LUNCH?

I can go on like this for a while.

She can even strip down the engine on a Land Rover ffs. I know thousands of people incapable of that.

She does all this still, and she is 80 years of age.. an age where most of us would expect to get a just retirement of rest and relaxation.. assuming that our pension hasnt been raped by the Government.

Its worth noting that she costs less than most pensioners do as well, and does a great deal more.

Need I continue... ?


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18 Jul 2008, 2:08 pm

Did I forget to mention that she lives in a council house and most of her jewellery is second hand?


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18 Jul 2008, 3:14 pm

I agree with you Macbeth - and the alternative seems to me to be much worse. I dislike presidential systems where the power and the glory are interlinked, particulary when often these seem to be almost hereditary anyway (or at least depend upon good contacts rather than merit).

And its not like the royals live a life of luxury - they are trained from a young age, work hard and are constantly in the public eye. I certainly wouldnt like to have that job, for all the privileges it brings.



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18 Jul 2008, 9:28 pm

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Think Australia will ever become a republic? I know a lot of people there want that.


They are too far from God and too close to China and Indonesia. They need to be tied to Europe, for their own sake.



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18 Jul 2008, 11:00 pm

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They are too far from God



and i'm too far from the maxx. :roll:



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19 Jul 2008, 11:18 am

monty wrote:
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Think Australia will ever become a republic? I know a lot of people there want that.


They are too far from God and too close to China and Indonesia. They need to be tied to Europe, for their own sake.


Omnipotent, omnicogniescent, and most importantly omnipresent, yet he has a geographical position these days? Best inform the ordnance survey immediately, so they can add some extra lines.. latitude, longtitiude, godditude....


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19 Jul 2008, 11:45 am

skafather84 wrote:
monty wrote:
They are too far from God



and i'm too far from the maxx. :roll:


The maxx?



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25 Jul 2008, 12:28 pm

Too far topic

Mad Maxx? :lol:

This family has evolved along with us. Now they are just as dysfunctional, what with all the scandals and misfortunes.

Slowmutant is correct. Elizabeth II is Canada's Head of State, and the Queen's Rep in Canada is Michaelle Jean. Lots of history for us, too.


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25 Jul 2008, 2:01 pm

I guess you mean the UK royal family?
EDIT: after reading through posts, I see it is about them indeed.



Well, same goes for ALL monarchies, not just the British: I dislike the system where someone can become head of state based upon family ties and bloodline. I am against a monarchy as a system. But it doesn't matter that much to me to make a problem out of it (because usually the prime minister makes all decisions anyway) so I don't support them but also don't mind them that much. There's way bigger problems to care for and worry about. The one thing I strongly dislike about the Belgian royal family is that every member gets an income from the state, even the 15th in line for the throne ; I can understand the King and successor get a state salary but not someone whose chances of becoming King depend on 14 relatives dying before him...


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