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19 Nov 2019, 4:05 pm

But then again, that's just one example out of many countries that white people control one way or another so I guess I understand now. :|


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19 Nov 2019, 4:05 pm

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If white people can't be victims of racism then what do you call it when a person is hated and descriminated against because of their 'white' skin color?

Prejudice and discrimination



I really don't get the difference. :|

If a white family doesn't want their daughter marrying a black man they get labelled as "racist"

But if a black family doesn't want their son marrying a white girl that's just prejudice and descrimination? As if that's somehow less wrong because they're not a white family? :scratch:


"Racism" is "prejudice plus power". A member of a minority may have racid attitudes about another race, but since the minorirty person is not part of the ruling race they are only guilty of prejudice or discrimination, but not "racism". Or that's one interpretation of the terminology. Makes sense to me.


I can see why they’re doing this, but I don’t think it’s good just to change definitions of words on people like this.


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19 Nov 2019, 4:33 pm

So why do you guys think Americans love to hate the Germans, Russians, and their Southern countrymen? I guess these particular white people make perfect scapegoats because they lost wars with other white people who want to believe that they are were somehow less evil? :shrug:


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19 Nov 2019, 4:37 pm

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So why do you guys think Americans love to hate the Germans, Russians, and their Southern countrymen? ...
SOME Americans may be that way, but not all of us.


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19 Nov 2019, 4:49 pm

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So why do you guys think Americans love to hate the Germans, Russians, and their Southern countrymen? ...
SOME Americans may be that way, but not all of us.


I guess you're right, but I don't think there's any denying that Hollywood really has it out for these people. We're constantly reminded by these popular movies and TV shows that Germans are nazis (Indiana Jones or any World War era movie), Russians are commie spies and gangsters (Any James Bond movie or the John Wick movies), and southerners are racist slave-owning inbreds (Glory, Mississippi Burning, or those 'Psycho Cannibal Hillbilly' movies like Deliverence and Texas Chainsaw Massacere).


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19 Nov 2019, 4:57 pm

TheCherokeeRosePrince wrote:
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So why do you guys think Americans love to hate the Germans, Russians, and their Southern countrymen? ...
SOME Americans may be that way, but not all of us.


I guess you're right, but I don't think there's any denying that Hollywood really has it out for these people...
GACH!! Hollywood!

Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis, rebels, the Royals, zombies, Trump and Global Warming? Because the effing Hollywood-based media keeps shoving these same effing things over and over into our faces, that's why!

They have run out of new ideas. Nazis in Captain America are now the Kree in Captain Marvel! Zombies in Night Of The Living Dead are now gun-toting robots in the Terminator movies. Nuclear Winter is now Global Warming. Nothing new, just the same old boogy-men re-written.

I tellya, it's enough to force me to take up reading books again!


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19 Nov 2019, 5:04 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Fnord wrote:
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So why do you guys think Americans love to hate the Germans, Russians, and their Southern countrymen? ...
SOME Americans may be that way, but not all of us.


I guess you're right, but I don't think there's any denying that Hollywood really has it out for these people...
GACH!! Hollywood!

Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis, rebels, the Royals, zombies, Trump and Global Warming? Because the effing Hollywood-based media keeps shoving these same effing things over and over into our faces, that's why!

They have run out of new ideas. Nazis in Captain America are now the Kree in Captain Marvel! Zombies in Night Of The Living Dead are now gun-toting robots in the Terminator movies. Nuclear Winter is now Global Warming. Nothing new, just the same old boogy-men re-written.

I tellya, it's enough to force me to take up reading books again!


Yes indeed! I think Hollywood is really just another American propoganda machine pushing a very pro-liberal agenda on everyone. through their overrated movies. I mean Hollywood has probably contributed the most to America's ignorance on history and what goes on in other countries (including our own country).

Maybe I should read more books too? :study:


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19 Nov 2019, 6:11 pm

The prejudice + power thing is a definition of institutional racism used in some very niche sociology circles. It is not for general application.

Suggesting that a particular race cannot be the victim of racism is racist.


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19 Nov 2019, 6:20 pm

Whites were victims of racism in Zimbabwe. Under Mugabe, they were thrown off their farms just because they were white.

Mugabe was seeking revenge for the previous Apartheid governments in Rhodesia (which became Zimbabwe). He went about it the wrong way.



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19 Nov 2019, 6:31 pm

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Whites were victims of racism in Zimbabwe. Under Mugabe, they were thrown off their farms just because they were white under Mugabe.

Mugabe was seeking revenge for the previous Apartheid governments in Rhodesia (which became Zimbabwe). He went about it the wrong way.


The Japanese emperor did the same to every white foreigner living in Japan during the end of the Edo period.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakumatsu


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19 Nov 2019, 6:42 pm

Any "race" can be a victim of "racism."



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19 Nov 2019, 6:50 pm

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Any "race" can be a victim of "racism."


How true!



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19 Nov 2019, 6:51 pm

Asian Americans, rather than summarily embracing identity-politics dogma, have come to recognize that using race discrimination to promote diversity, especially in education, is excluding their children from opportunities they have earned.

Comedian Hasan Minhaj ended his Netflix special by calling the Asian-Americans suing Harvard “the worst kind” of Americans.

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Asian Americans who believe in a meritocracy and the American dream are joining the Republican Party. The door is always open.



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19 Nov 2019, 6:56 pm

Metal Rat wrote:
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Any "race" can be a victim of "racism."


How true!


And yet you opened this thread saying one race cant be the victim of racism.


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19 Nov 2019, 8:01 pm

TheCherokeeRosePrince wrote:
Fnord wrote:
TheCherokeeRosePrince wrote:
Fnord wrote:
TheCherokeeRosePrince wrote:
So why do you guys think Americans love to hate the Germans, Russians, and their Southern countrymen? ...
SOME Americans may be that way, but not all of us.


I guess you're right, but I don't think there's any denying that Hollywood really has it out for these people...
GACH!! Hollywood!

Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis, rebels, the Royals, zombies, Trump and Global Warming? Because the effing Hollywood-based media keeps shoving these same effing things over and over into our faces, that's why!

They have run out of new ideas. Nazis in Captain America are now the Kree in Captain Marvel! Zombies in Night Of The Living Dead are now gun-toting robots in the Terminator movies. Nuclear Winter is now Global Warming. Nothing new, just the same old boogy-men re-written.

I tellya, it's enough to force me to take up reading books again!


Yes indeed! I think Hollywood is really just another American propoganda machine pushing a very pro-liberal agenda on everyone. through their overrated movies. I mean Hollywood has probably contributed the most to America's ignorance on history and what goes on in other countries (including our own country).

Maybe I should read more books too? :study:


Hollywood was being used for propaganda, quite literally, after ww2. Part of the Marshall plan was that European cinemas, German ones more than others, had to show American films. America has exported the American dream across the globe.


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19 Nov 2019, 8:15 pm

I always find more and more things to despise about my own country.


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