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Metal Rat wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
America did send back Jewish refugees back to Germany, that is how much they did not care until it started to become too obvious.
So too, did Joseph Stalin. Was he an anti-Semite, too?
About the only national head of state who accepted Jewish refugees from pre war Nazi Germany was one particular lovely fellow...Trujillo, the most infamous dictator of the Dominican Republic!
He wanted Jewish European expertise to help build up his Caribean country. So he took in some Jews when no one else wood.
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14 Dec 2019, 7:33 am
QFT wrote:
Metal Rat wrote:
Interestingly, though, American stereotypes of the Japanese are eerily like German stereotypes of Jews.
Well, Americans weren't putting Japanese into the gas chambers. Yes, they locked them up in concentration camp during the war, but they didn't try to kill them there.
Of course not, instead we simply nuked two of their cities. No biggy.
14 Dec 2019, 7:36 am
naturalplastic wrote:
Metal Rat wrote:
If I am right, and Stalin is as much like Hitler as I believe him to be, then the efforts to instill nostalgia, for US Military Involvement in The Second World War, is, in truth, an evil joke. After all, America destroyed one of Europe's most infamous tyrannies, Nazi Germany, merely to make life easier for another of Europe's most infamous tyrannies, Commie Russia. Both had systems of Prison Camps wherein their victims were tortured, butchered, and worked to death in the most horrid ways one can envision.
This is ret*d.
The Soviet Union did most of the heavy lifting defeating Hitler. Two thirds of the German army was deployed, and was destroyed, on the Eastern Front. And the Soviets paid the most in blood. Nine hundred thousand Russian soldiers and Civilians died in the siege of one city alone, Leningrad. That's three times the death toll of Hiroshima and Nagasaki put together, and its more than the combined number people Britain and the USA lost in the entire world war.
Russia "made life easy" for Churchill, and FDR, and not the other way around. We depended on Russia to defeat Hitler. The post war Iron curtain falling across the middle of Europe was an avoidable price we had to pay.
Can we just accept that everyone involved in World War 2 was wrong without having to compare atrocities that were commited? Or do we need a third World War just to even out the score? It feels to me like we're headed down that path.
14 Dec 2019, 9:37 am
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Metal Rat wrote:
If I am right, and Stalin is as much like Hitler as I believe him to be, then the efforts to instill nostalgia, for US Military Involvement in The Second World War, is, in truth, an evil joke. After all, America destroyed one of Europe's most infamous tyrannies, Nazi Germany, merely to make life easier for another of Europe's most infamous tyrannies, Commie Russia. Both had systems of Prison Camps wherein their victims were tortured, butchered, and worked to death in the most horrid ways one can envision.
This is ret*d.
The Soviet Union did most of the heavy lifting defeating Hitler. Two thirds of the German army was deployed, and was destroyed, on the Eastern Front. And the Soviets paid the most in blood. Nine hundred thousand Russian soldiers and Civilians died in the siege of one city alone, Leningrad. That's three times the death toll of Hiroshima and Nagasaki put together, and its more than the combined number people Britain and the USA lost in the entire world war.
Russia "made life easy" for Churchill, and FDR, and not the other way around. We depended on Russia to defeat Hitler. The post war Iron curtain falling across the middle of Europe was an avoidable price we had to pay.
Can we just accept that everyone involved in World War 2 was wrong without having to compare atrocities that were commited? Or do we need a third World War just to even out the score? It feels to me like we're headed down that path.
No. The allies, including Stalin, were right. Right about the issue at hand. The Axis were the aggressors, and the right side won. The allies defeated the aggressors.
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