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06 Mar 2020, 2:26 am

I wonder if most Bernie supporters will actually go vote for Biden (if Biden wins).

Wait in line an hour for someone you have no enthusiasm for? :twisted: :twisted:


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06 Mar 2020, 3:53 am

vermontsavant wrote:
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I'd vote Sanders over Trump but I'd vote Trump over Biden.


that is what I think quite a few people may think

2-3% of voters say they prefer Sanders to Trump but Trump to Biden.

However, 7-8% of voters say they prefer Biden to Trump, but Trump to Sanders.

That makes a lot of sense. There are far more people who dislike Trump but prefer him to a radical leftist, than there are who dislike Trump but prefer him to a moderate liberal.
The issue with Biden vs. Sanders isn't far left vs. moderate.
It's a decent man (Sanders) vs. the most wicked,corrupt,self serving,souless evil human being(Biden)I would vote for satan himself before Biden,Biden is like Clinton,just evil through and through.

What makes you think that?



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06 Mar 2020, 6:25 am

The_Walrus wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
I'd vote Sanders over Trump but I'd vote Trump over Biden.


that is what I think quite a few people may think

2-3% of voters say they prefer Sanders to Trump but Trump to Biden.

However, 7-8% of voters say they prefer Biden to Trump, but Trump to Sanders.

That makes a lot of sense. There are far more people who dislike Trump but prefer him to a radical leftist, than there are who dislike Trump but prefer him to a moderate liberal.
The issue with Biden vs. Sanders isn't far left vs. moderate.
It's a decent man (Sanders) vs. the most wicked,corrupt,self serving,souless evil human being(Biden)I would vote for satan himself before Biden,Biden is like Clinton,just evil through and through.

What makes you think that?
Biden has always been crooked,I am older than you and remember his days as a Delaware senator,we know he had hid hands dirty in the Ukraine.Trump was impeached for the sins of the Biden's,Trump just used coersion to get them investigated.

I don't have a lot of examples off my head,I am not a big follower of politics,ask JohnPowell he is more informed than I,he will tell you more about the misdeeds of Biden.


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06 Mar 2020, 8:46 am

If you can remember anything from his time in the senate then that would be interesting.

I am a big follower of contemporary politics. I can see how you could easily get the impression that Trump was investigating corruption, however as the investigation grew on the evidence became clear that there was no evidence Biden had done anything wrong and Trump was abusing his office. Mitt Romney’s speech on the matter is very moving and a good summary: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-aFfJe20U

Trump tried to frame Biden.

It’s understandable that people have lost a lot of faith in politicians and hoped that Trump would change that, but as Trump’s presidency has continued he’s proven to be even more crooked and corrupt than anyone in Washington.



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06 Mar 2020, 9:07 am

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If you can remember anything from his time in the senate then that would be interesting.

I am a big follower of contemporary politics. I can see how you could easily get the impression that Trump was investigating corruption, however as the investigation grew on the evidence became clear that there was no evidence Biden had done anything wrong and Trump was abusing his office. Mitt Romney’s speech on the matter is very moving and a good summary: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-aFfJe20U

Trump tried to frame Biden.

It’s understandable that people have lost a lot of faith in politicians and hoped that Trump would change that, but as Trump’s presidency has continued he’s proven to be even more crooked and corrupt than anyone in Washington.

People can be framed for something they are guilty of. O.J. comes first to mind. Anybody that believes that Trump tried to have the Biden’s investigated out of a desire to root out corruption is naive. It was all about increasing the odds of Trump being reelected.


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06 Mar 2020, 9:14 am

The_Walrus wrote:
If you can remember anything from his time in the senate then that would be interesting.

I am a big follower of contemporary politics. I can see how you could easily get the impression that Trump was investigating corruption, however as the investigation grew on the evidence became clear that there was no evidence Biden had done anything wrong and Trump was abusing his office. Mitt Romney’s speech on the matter is very moving and a good summary: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-aFfJe20U

Trump tried to frame Biden.

It’s understandable that people have lost a lot of faith in politicians and hoped that Trump would change that, but as Trump’s presidency has continued he’s proven to be even more crooked and corrupt than anyone in Washington.


He was a long standing senator from the state of Delaware on many committees and sub committees,I believe high ranking on the judicial committee.

A politicians politician,very aloof and out of touch,he is now considered a moderate today but in his senate days his voting record was on par with the arch liberal Edward M. Kennedy.He was considered super liberal in older times.

I never really like him as a person,I'm not informed on politics enough to be able to give you a lot of specific dirt,JohnPowell would know more about his actual dirty deeds.

Bernie is a good and decent man,when I used to live in Vermont in about 2014 or so my then but now ex-wife and I fell on hard times and the office of senator Bernard Sanders took an active role in helping us out.We would have been evicted from our apartment for sure had it not been for the intervention of the Sanders administration.Bernie really cares,Biden lives for power.

Ask JohnPowell if you want more specific information on Biden's corruption.


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06 Mar 2020, 1:48 pm

Let me see if I have got this correct:

- You have a personal distaste for Joe Biden
- Politically you think he is comparable to Ted Kennedy
- You are sure he is dirty and corrupt, but don’t know why you think that.

That story of how Sanders helped you is really nice, it shows the good side of Sanders. Politicians get a lot of slander but people often seem to have nice things to say about their representatives. At the end of the day they’re mostly ordinary people who want to serve the community.



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06 Mar 2020, 2:05 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
Let me see if I have got this correct:

- You have a personal distaste for Joe Biden
- Politically you think he is comparable to Ted Kennedy
- You are sure he is dirty and corrupt, but don’t know why you think that.

That story of how Sanders helped you is really nice, it shows the good side of Sanders. Politicians get a lot of slander but people often seem to have nice things to say about their representatives. At the end of the day they’re mostly ordinary people who want to serve the community.


I personaly dislike Biden and the Clinton's,I am not the most informed person politicaly and don't have lots of information to back up my personal dislikes.JohnPowell could give you pages worth of dirt on Biden and the Clinton's.

Yes Biden's voting record in the US senate was comparable to the late Ted Kennedy and both were on the very influencial judiciary committee for many years.

Yes I do believe Sanders is a good man and that is rare in politics and is the right man for the democratic nomination.

I wish I was more informed in politics and could give more useful information,but JohnPowell can.


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06 Mar 2020, 4:36 pm

Generally in life, it is best not to base your views on the opinions of a random stranger on the internet. Base them on facts, and your values.



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06 Mar 2020, 5:01 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
Generally in life, it is best not to base your views on the opinions of a random stranger on the internet. Base them on facts, and your values.
It's my true feelings that Biden alienates me and I don't like him,he is a aloof technicrat like the Clinton's.I have read about corrupt things he has done but don't remember them off hand.

I don't believe everything JohnPowell says at all,I usually disagree with him most of the time actually.But we both agree about Biden being corrupt and I was simply saying JP could give you more specific information than I can give you about Biden.But no I don't copy cat everything JP say's,far from it actually,I hate conspiracy theories for one example.

Does this clarify my point of view


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06 Mar 2020, 5:25 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
If you can remember anything from his time in the senate then that would be interesting.

I am a big follower of contemporary politics. I can see how you could easily get the impression that Trump was investigating corruption, however as the investigation grew on the evidence became clear that there was no evidence Biden had done anything wrong and Trump was abusing his office. Mitt Romney’s speech on the matter is very moving and a good summary: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-aFfJe20U

Trump tried to frame Biden.

It’s understandable that people have lost a lot of faith in politicians and hoped that Trump would change that, but as Trump’s presidency has continued he’s proven to be even more crooked and corrupt than anyone in Washington.


Where do you get this drivel from? Biden was one of the leading forces in the coup in Ukraine, supporting Jew hating Neo Nazis to implement it. He blackmailed the country to drop an investigation into his crackhead son, who he got an outrageously payed job that he didn't even need to bother to attend.

https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/11/26/ ... o-us-firm/


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06 Mar 2020, 5:27 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
,I hate conspiracy theories for one example.

Does this clarify my point of view


Aliens are real! The Air Force doesn't exist!

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06 Mar 2020, 5:29 pm

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I wonder if most Bernie supporters will actually go vote for Biden (if Biden wins).

Wait in line an hour for someone you have no enthusiasm for? :twisted: :twisted:


My state gets mail in ballots, so at least I won't have to wait in line.*picture a sarcastic hooray emote*not sure where to find one so you'll just have to imagine it.

Don't want to vote for Biden don't want to vote for Trump, Biden however may be the lesser evil. I am just really hoping for Bernie so I don't have to make the decision between grudgingly voting for Biden and just not voting.


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06 Mar 2020, 5:33 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
Let me see if I have got this correct:

- You have a personal distaste for Joe Biden
- Politically you think he is comparable to Ted Kennedy
- You are sure he is dirty and corrupt, but don’t know why you think that.

That story of how Sanders helped you is really nice, it shows the good side of Sanders. Politicians get a lot of slander but people often seem to have nice things to say about their representatives. At the end of the day they’re mostly ordinary people who want to serve the community.


This is comedy gold :lol: :lol:

I guess you missed the expenses scandal where most of the UK politicians were fleecing the public. Numerous members in the US and the UK are being bribed or blackmailed and involved in sex scandals. Tied to foreign lobby groups and gladly supporting mass murdering children. Get a grip.


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06 Mar 2020, 5:35 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
The party is run by liberals.


Yup! Those awful liberals who want healthcare for all Americans, and want to have fairness in employment and equal opportunity for all. Such a terrible agenda!



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06 Mar 2020, 5:45 pm

Biden sniffs little girls. He should be kept away from children. Also I have good information that it is wise not to be in an elevator with him. Male or female, he gropes.


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