Secret Democratic Party Memo on Black Lives Matter (BLM)

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12 Jun 2020, 11:51 pm

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Under no circumstances, Perry says, should Democrats "say 'all lives matter' nor mention 'black-on-black crime.'" "These are all viewed as red herring attacks," the document reads. "This response will garner additional media scrutiny and only anger BLM activists. This is the worst response."

So, Democrats are tricksy and false.

And people wonder why I despise politicos and refuse to vote?

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13 Jun 2020, 1:04 am

The_Walrus wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

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how exactly is it false to be aware of how black-on-black crime is often brought up to dismiss the idea of black lives having value because of crime within their communities, as though that's not a reflection of the way racial biases in policing?

"Secret Memo"

Hush, Hush …

Don't speak the honest words of "all lives matter" or "black on black crime".

They might be dumb enough to say those phrases, loads of Democrats are just as horrible on racial issues as Republicans but at least their party is willing to remind them that they're supposed to be better than that. The Democratic establishment is deathly terrified of establishment candidates being replaced with more AOCs, even if more AOCs is probably what their base would prefer.

Personally I'd rather see the people who would need reminded to not say those things not represent the Democratic party, but between two racists I'll take the one who at least feels an obligation to not be open about it.

The Democratic base pretty consistently rejects the AOCs of the world, outside of Massachusetts. Obviously there are exceptions but it seems apparent the Democratic base prefers liberals.

Socialists might have the edge over the Joe Manchins of the world in bluer states but Manchin is as far from the centre of the Democratic Party as the socialists are.

Are you talking about the boomers who vote Democratic or their actual progressive base? The Democratic base isn't synonymous with Never Trumper Republicans, no matter how hard the right of the Democratic party try to make it appear that way.

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13 Jun 2020, 4:20 am

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Protestors and anarchist [many BLM and Antifa] have taken over and occupied the six-block downtown area in Seattle, Washington and named the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” (CHAZ). They have declared it an independent nation. They have declared it a so-called “cop-free zone”. They have their own armed militia. They set up barricades around the area and established controlled entry and check points. Residents who live within the boundaries are "forced to show ID to prove you “belong” there." “We have been hearing from community members that they have been subjected to barricades set up by the protesters with some armed individuals running them as checkpoints in the neighborhood,” Assistant Police Chief Deanna Nolette said, “While they have a constitutionally protected right to bear arms there is no legal right for those arms to be used to intimidate community members.” “We have heard anecdotally of citizens and businesses being asked to pay a fee to operate within this area; this is crime of extortion,” Nolette said, referring to a comment posted to CHS by a purported area business owner.

<vitriolic Sarcasm mode activated>

Yup,
*That* is the sort of America *I* want to live in.
Once international travel is allowed again, here in Australia, I'll be the first to emigrate there. :mrgreen:

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13 Jun 2020, 4:24 am

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There's no way that every person within "CHAZ" agrees with the anarchy within its "borders". I feel sorry for those people. Even if they wanted to sell their home or condo to leave, they can't. Property values within "CHAZ" are in limbo or even nullified. Perhaps the "citizens" of "CHAZ" have claimed ownership of all property "collectively"?

I would have thought the barbarians would have burnt down anything/k inhabitable by now.
If not,
Bad barbarians,
You aren't worth your salt. :evil:

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13 Jun 2020, 4:27 am

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Two topics for the price of one :wink:

The CHAZ will probably collapse very soon, which will be ample demonstration of the utter failure of these people’s ideology.

But on the plus side,
Their "Stupidity Coinage" will appreciate greatly.
High-quality stuff.
Hard to find,
Even in America. :mrgreen:

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13 Jun 2020, 4:30 am

TheRobotLives wrote:

So, Democrats are tricksy and false.

Yes, my Precious,
As are *all* politicians,
On either side of the political divide.

Here, little one.
Have a cookie,
I mean raw fish. :fish:

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14 Jun 2020, 7:03 pm

MORE CHAOS AND CONFUSION

People love to name things and then rename things. So now, in the six blocks seized by Seattle protesters, there was plenty of confusion this weekend as some seek to change the name of the self-proclaimed Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) to Capitol Hill Organized (or Occupied) Protest (CHOP).

“This is not an autonomous zone. We are not trying to secede from the United States,” one protester, Maurice Cola, said Saturday afternoon.

On Friday, one video showed a protester – clad in a blue helmet and covering his face – climbing up to attempt to remove a sign that read “Welcome to the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone,” which hung over Pine Street. The crowd below him shouting and arguing before the man eventually came down, leaving the sign intact. So it looks like two fractions fighting over what to call the place.

(The protesters decide to Rebrand the movement as the "Capitol Hill ORGANIZED Protest" over the last couple days in effort to dispel the claims of actually seceding from the nation and to recentralize the focus back to the BLM movement.)

It also appears that one man tried to torch the East Police Precinct but the crowd put the fire out.

Seattle police have asked the public for help identifying an arson suspect seen on video early Friday morning pouring liquid onto the exterior of the abandoned East Police Precinct before setting it on fire. People nearby can be heard shouting for water. They rushed to put out the flames before it spread to the rest of the building or nearby tents.

Source: Confusion reigns as Seattle' seized six blocks known as CHAZ purportedly changes name to CHOP: 'We're not trying to secede'

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16 Jun 2020, 7:45 am

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

There is a stark contrast between how protesters staying at Seattle's "Capitol Hill Organized Protest" zone behave during the day and during the night. During the day, he said, it could be considered peaceful if one ignored boarded-up businesses or graffiti calling for the murder of police. But when the sun goes down, the "criminal elements come out."

"Unfortunately, last night that was made very clear, when one person on a microphone and a loudspeaker was able to sic a mob of probably more than 100 people to chase down this business that was several blocks away. They just all descended on it. It was pure anarchy," Andy Ngo remarked.

Some businesses in the area that are sympathetic to the protesters' cause, many others are not. "For example, there's a Trader Joe's nearby who announced just a few days ago that they're closing indefinitely because of security and safety issues," he remarked. "So, when you take that and you also see all [of] the businesses that are boarded up, that no cars can drive into this area.

"Particularly when there are now some dissident voices coming out to speak and they're having to do it anonymously because of threats of retaliation," Ngo noted. Another contributing factor to what Ngo described as a chaotic atmosphere is that many people have been seen openly carrying weapons like handguns, rifles, batons or knives.

"At night, t's a completely different vibe than during the day," he asserted. "You see vagrants come there. Some of them are dealing with mental and health [crises]. There was an ambulance that was called yesterday. The fact that police are not going in should tell you quite a lot. And, this is what my own sourcing had told me last week is that if anybody needs help you actually have to leave the physical zone and go return to the U.S., let's say, to get help."

Source: Journalist Andy Ngo says Seattle's occupied zone is like 'Jekyll and Hyde'

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16 Jun 2020, 7:56 am

Any group that isn't teaching that all lives matter and that everyone's well being matters is sick and twisted,BLM has been on the scene for a few years now,has things improved for black people?No,things have not improved for black people or any people for that matter.

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16 Jun 2020, 12:52 pm

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Expecting them to have just magically resolved the legacy of four hundreds years of white supremacy is unreasonable and pretending that they're racist for focusing on where the problem exists instead of else where is the sort of dishonesty expected of their racist opponents, I'd hope that you'd at least try to be better. All lives can't matter until black lives matter.

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16 Jun 2020, 1:05 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

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I’m talking about the Democratic base as a whole, from black boomers who remember segregation to Chapo dudebros. The Democratic base includes anticapitalists, but is not defined by them. The working-class black voters who chose Obama over Clinton, Clinton over Sanders and Biden over Sanders are just as much part of the party as the extremists who threaten to vote for other parties if they don’t get their way.

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16 Jun 2020, 1:17 pm

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Am I saying black lives don't matter,the SJW group BLM isn't necessarily the same thing as black lives mattering.

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16 Jun 2020, 2:12 pm

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Am I saying black lives don't matter,the SJW group BLM isn't necessarily the same thing as black lives mattering.

Really, why do you keep using that anti-BLM slogan if you're not hostile to the idea behind the name? That's why racists keep using that slogan in response, I'm sorry if you didn't realize that until now.

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16 Jun 2020, 2:30 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

vermontsavant wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

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Am I saying black lives don't matter,the SJW group BLM isn't necessarily the same thing as black lives mattering.

Being skeptical of BLM does not make me a racist,I'm Skeptical of all SJW's.My god parents were black,Iv'e dated black women,you don't know me personally or my life at all :roll: