Racists don’t get it that...

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I would call it prejudice, not racism, a pre-conceived belief or judgement based on rumour or indoctrination and folklore or just stupidity through second hand experience.

I was training in London as a nurse and was having coffee in the cafeteria with some Jamaican nurses. They were talking about religion and asked me what mine is. I replied that I was Jewish and they looked really baffled. One of them said in all seriousness that I couldn't be Jewish because I don't have horns. I didn't get angry because she was devoid of all malice and was being completely truthful. Perhaps it is because there is a mistranslation in the Bible she uses because in the St.James Bible it states that Moses has horns, the word for ray of Light and horn is the same. In Hebrew it is ray of Light. There is a statue in a fountain by Bellini (I think) near the Spanish Steps in Rome that I have seen which portrays Moses with horns. I don't suppose there are many Jews in Jamaica.
Prejudice is making a baseless judgement before the fact, based on rumour and stupidity, it is often cultural and very very dangerous.

I think so, yes... sexual fetishistion of other races is pretty common, whether it's "ooh, race x are mysterious and sexy!" or "race y are filthy sluts." Two sides of the same coin.

I've noticed that some of my colleagues have an outrageously racist attitude to black people, who are rare in this town, but are nice as pie to all the Nepalis who work here. (They're mostly wives of Gurkha soldiers stationed in Yorkshire.) I'm not sure if the selective racism is due to them being more familiar with Nepalis, or if it's a skin-colour hierarchy thing.

Thats really interesting that you mentioned that belief of Jews having horns, because I am Jewish and this was the exact thing I ran into that eventually led me to converting to Christianity (I still follow Jewish law as well so I am Messianic).

In my case, what happened was that my mom had Jewish friends coming over, and they mentioned that in middle ages some people believed that Jews have horns. I asked them how is it possible to believe this, and they didnt answr my question. So then I went to google, and in google I found that there is a verse in the New Testament, namely John 8:44, where Jesus presumably tells the Jews that they are the children of the devil (and the devil is believed to have horns). I never read the Bible before, so I had no idea it had any verses of that kind and I was quite frankly shocked and scared. So then I decided to research other interpretations of John 8:44 to see why don't everyone else runs around as scared as I am, and this is what ultimately led me to study the New Testament as a whole to get more context and eventually accepting Christianity.

Yes, in my search for Jews having horns issue, I found the thing about Moses as well. So there were two separate things. One thing was from the Old Testament where the light coming from Moses was mistranslated as horns, and the other one was from the New Testament where Jesus tells the Jews they are of the devil. And, somehow, Christians combine these two things in order to sort of reinforce each other -- but that doesn't make any sense, because then they would have to say that Moses was of the devil, but they regard Moses as one of the prophets. So that was the other thing that intrigued me and got me to study Christianity in order to sort everything out.

In case of the pastor who scammed me out of 8 thousand dollars it wasn't greed because he was running an orphanage (I saw his orphans) and he used the money he scammed me out of in order to get more orphans and buy a new place for them.

It *is* however, a racism. Because the fact that he used it for orphans shows that he believed he was doing the right thing. Now, in order for him to think of it as the right thing, he had to hold a belief that whoever is rich owes money to whoever is poor. That belief is not technically racist (maybe there are some rich blacks), but its classist for sure.



Assuming that someone is rich because they have a light skin is racist. I mean that is what racism is: making an assumption about the person based off of their skin color.

And by the way I am not rich. In fact, the way he scammed me is that I told him I have a credit card debt I can't pay off and he promised that if I help him buy a ground to build a church he will take photos of it and collect donations that he would use to help me pay off my credit card. But then he started coming up with various stories as to why the donations didn't come.

The point I am trying to make is that he should have known I am not rich since I told him I couldn't pay off my credit card bill. But he made *racist* assumption that since I am White I should be rich -- and, therefore, if I say I am not, I must be lying.

When my daughter was in Nepal she bought a wedding ring to prevent men on the street from proposing marriage.They really like blue eyes.
People selling items on the street regularly try to get a higher price from tourists.They assume all American and European tourists are rich.People here will also charge tourists extra if they can.
She was spit on in a market in Guatemala, so racism goes both ways.
There is the term “ white devil.”
Although no doubt people of color have had it worse.

I think what the OP was alluding to was maybe something similar to the Dunning-Kruger effect ... ?

It's the psychological phenomenon of illusory superiority as a form of cognitive bias.

Nah ... just call it "Racism" and be done with it.

It seems they are not aware that Jesus which they follow, Virgin Marry and all the Prophets in OT were Jews?


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Interesting... the Arabic word of horns is “Qarn” too

Well...if all Jews had horns then ...Moses would already have had horns on his friggen head when he went UP the Mount. And all of the multitudes of his Jewish followers back in the camp would also have had horns on their heads. So having horns on your head would just be the norm. So why the heck would the authors of the Bible have bothered to mention it? It would be like a news paper reporting that Trump (who is having a press conference at this moment) "had two eyeballs in his head when he approached the podium today".

I didn't say that Bible says Moses had horns -- I only said "others misinterpretted that passage" to say this. What it says it hat Moses had light coming off of him, but in some language apparently the word for light is the same as the word for horns, which resulted in mistranslation. The English analogue of this is "piece" and "peace" meaning two different things. But that doesn't change the fact that some people misinterpretted it and thought it meant horns -- and actually made a statue of Moses with horns.

By the way, during my research I got two answers to my question as to how Christians could say that Jews are of the devil without saying that Moses is of the devil:

a) There is a theory called "replacement theology" which says that Jews of Old Testament time were God's chosen but after they rejected Jesus they aren't chosen any more. Now, saying "they aren't God's chosen" isn't the same thing as saying "they are of the devil": all it means is that they are just like everyone else, neither better nor worse. But if someone *wants* to say they are of the devil, they can "add" to the replacement theology an "extra statement" that "after they stopped being God's chosen they also became of the devil". And if one "wants" to also say they have horns, I guess one could say that when they rejected Jesus their DNA got mutated to make their descendants have horns (kinda what might happen in Chernobyl for example). But of course Bible doesn't actually say any of that. But that would be what Christians that believe this stuff would have to say. But, in this kind of scenario, Moses won't be having horns since the supposed mutation would have to happen at the time of Jesus, and Moses was before that.

b) There is also a theory called "Christian Identity" that -- in sharp contrast to replacement theology -- affirms that the physical descendants of Biblical Hebrews are still God's chosen people. However, it claims that today's Jews have no genetic lineage to them. Instead, today's Jews are descendants of Cain who later converted to Judaism. They, furthermore, say that in the Garden of Eden there was a sexual intercourse between Eve and the serpent, and Cain was the product of that intercourse. Since the serpent is the devil, Cain is the literal descendent of the devil, and since Jews are supposedly descendants of Cain, Jews are the physical descendants of the devil as well (and therefore they might have horns). But, once again, Biblical Hebrews are *not* Jews according to that doctrine. Since Moses is a Biblical Hebrew, Moses won't be of the devil, and, therefore, he won't be having horns. Similarly, the people whom he led out of Egypt are also Biblical Hebrews, thus they won't be Jewish either and, therefore, they also won't be having horns. By the way I do not believe in this doctrine: for one thing, Bible never said that Eve and serpent had sex, and also the descendants of Cain were supposed to die during the flood anyway. I am just summarizing what other people believe.

As you can see, theories "a" and "b" are completely different from each other. But their commonality is to disassociate Moses from today's Jews. In case of Theory a, they affirm that Moses is genetically related to today's Jews but deny the fact that the genetic lineage matters. In case of Theory b, they affirm that genetic lineage matters, but deny that Moses is genetically related to today's Jews. Therefore, if one uses "either" of these two theories to say that today's Jews are of the devil, one would have to also admit that Moses is *not* of the devil and, therefore, Moses won't be having horns. So the fact that they used that Biblical mistranslation of Moses having horns in order to support their theory about the Jews just shows they haven't thought it all the way through.

I see you have understood what the OP was asking,

Its possible to fetishise over the women in a group and still hate/be racist toward the men. I worked with an Australian gentleman who is married to a Singaporean Chinese girl and while he loves his wife and his half asian children he hates Chinese people, I asked him about it once and he self-rationalised his behavior by saying that Asian men treat their wives terribly so he saved his wife from being stuck in a loveless marriage.

When I was in India I noticed that Indian men were staring at my computer screen when I was writing something, were asking me "where do you live" instead of hello, etc. Indian women never did this, only men. Similarly, when I had Chinese and Vietnamese roommates here in the US, they were both quite nousy. Like one time I was cooking mashrooms and my Chinese roommate asked me what it is and then smelled it without my permission. Also there was the other day when I was at the library reading a religous website and he walked towards my computer and asked me what is it. I also know a couple of Chinese female graduate students, and neither of them are nousy. They talk to me, yes, but they talk to me like normal and I enjoy those conversations. Maybe due to the patriarchy in Asian cultures the men feel like they can do those things and invade other people's space while women don't feel like they can do it. Thats just speculation though. But, whatever that is, it led me to dislike Asian men while being perfectly fine with Asian women. So its not any kind of indoctrination, its a simple life experience.

Yes this underline that its possible to sexually be interested in women from a group (e.g. Asians) while carrying reservations about the group itself.

Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say that my sexual interest in Asian women somehow "cancels" my dislike for Asians. Rather I said that Asian women never done anything that would cause me to dislike them on the first place, while Asian men did. So I imagine if there was heterosexual woman in my place she would similarly dislike Asian men without disliking Asian women, due to the behavior that I described above.

By the way, I don't date Asian women. I only date women of European descent (which includes Western European and Eastern European).

If you think that a**hole really loves his wife, you have a warped concept of love.

I wasn't judging him, merely saying that type of thinking exists...

Would a moron be adequate, or is that not specific enough?