I have issues with feminism

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Feminists are constantly shouting out across the media the message that simply existing as a straight cis male is somehow a crime in and of itself. I get that its not all feminists who do this, but it is also much more prevalent than just a fringe minority.

you're not lying. i'm also on makeupalley and have been since i was a teenager -
i saw such horrible things, said BY feminists who i thought i agreed with -- and more in the past 5 or so years.
and lots of gloating and degrading people and lots of assumptions.
i always want to say something like " you dont know that for a FACT, you're just doing broad brushstroke painting and it isn't at all reasonable to say XYZ"
or "why are u blaming THIS person for THIS WOMAN'S FAULT ?? just for his gender?!?!? you're just making a mockery of feminism!!"
or " what this person did is 10 times worse, or equivalent but she's a woman so it's ok or applauded?"
is what a lot of it boils down to, sometimes...


lots of really confusing and distressing type of conversations (for me) and it's really bold to say someone should lose their manhood because they laughed at a sexist joke or something...
those are the type of things some people there have said too..

and also double standards..
and those people aren't even a website for feminists specifically..

i just think the world is really agitated from different things, even if it's relevant, i mean the emotional impact is too much --
and online is where you speak in extremes as it can relieve the feelings and sharing sentiments with others sometimes fans flames.

social media is great for extremists of any type, of any belief system, even the most blatant type of extremist thoughts that should be illegal.

my brother showed me how it is (not feminism related but other things)
there were lots of really bad (won't describe here) things he and his friends were flagging and reporting ...
like human beings should NOT think like that! let alone go around sharing that thought!

but were never being taken down no matter what! so i told him stop LOOKING at it. you cannot do anything about this REALLY. all you'll do is go crazy with grief .

plus focus on the good = making that grow by lending it a stronger voice (from sharing)
rather than sharing the horrible things as an example ...

for example it's true that anti-FGM type movements/ education among people, in countries where it occurred, was helped along by medical doctors sure---but also feminists.

i wonder at the feminists who don't care about something happening blatantly to other women ,
more extreme than what they're talking about (which may even be petty semantics) ---
because it's the 'wrong' group to their overall belief system. and so refuse to see it. but then you see the ones who do care and do help.. so i'd rather focus on that..

have a theory that online group think is always misleading or troubling (without having an outlet)

at some point
even in places like classrooms you often hear people say things that actually are belittling or aren't a good thing to say ..or really bad...

do they mean it as a joke? is it something they are willing to change their mind about? or have more balanced perspective? is it coming from some trauma? is there an experience they've all had that i haven't or that i didn't recognize?


rather be a loner who can live with herself in the darkest hours of the night and think without extra confusion and sadness over things


if i sign a petition or something i do it privately and stay out of tidal waves of others' contradictory or conflicting or problematic thoughts as my own are more than enough

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I'd like to clarify that I am talking about feminists, not women. I have been bullied and abused by both female and male feminists, including an incident that occurred while I was homeless (and they knew it), and at one point leading me to near suicide. Which, by the way, is why I thought the Haven was an appropriate place to post this. But apparently I'm not deserving of support or compassion since my abusers were feminists and I'm a "privileged" male.

And apparently feminists can plaster and shout "kill all men" all across social media without challenge. But when I object, I'm the one the expressing hate speech.[/quote]



Having reviewed this thread I'll allow it here as it was posted in Haven and OP has clearly been traumatized. Wishing to rant is a perfectly valid response. However, please don't generalize by suggesting all feminists are going to do that or would approve of what happened to you. You didn't deserve that kind of treatment and 99% of people of both genders as well as non-binary, would agree with me. And if anyone posted "kill all men" on WP it would certainly be deleted and the person banned, as no hate speech is permitted here. There are hateful things of all types online that quite honestly sicken me and I choose not to go there.

This is the first time I have heard about killallmen. I don't know anything about it and had just heard about it now.

If we got rid of all men, the human population would go extinct. I would miss my husband and miss my dad and my son.

I think OP was just venting about other platforms than here.

I think the word you are looking for is radical feminists. They seem to be a different group than feminists so they were given a different name to separate them from regular feminists.

Not ALL women want husbands and/or families. Some are brilliant in their chosen career and just don't have the time for family life although most do. Many women do as well or better in their field of expertise than their male colleagues. The married ones often teamed up with their husbands and also carried on their work later - think of Marie Curie and Ann Druyan, wife of Carl Sagan.

Interestingly, very few female schoolteachers used to marry in former times - they were dedicated to their calling of teaching and perhaps seldom got to meet men, unless they were teachers too. They certainly wouldn't be referred to as "feminists" just because they were in an honourable profession.

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Theres the thing MAT they all say ( on the other forum i used fr years ) even if there is no reason oftentimes.. Meaning men are trash.. I mean I see the point that people go overboard and it comes out in small ways then some unfortunate ppl experience the real blast of it.. And the broad brush stroke to taint anything that they want ..even if no logic ..


It is an ego thing It seems. That is the issue in extreme people.

So nobody can question a lack of logic in something.. Its like you are us or them in everything ..arrogance masked

But then the same users call themselves feminists which is basically all of them

In some Reddit subs, they ban you if you go "not all men" because to them it's an insult and trivializes the issue women go through. Of course they know not all men rape or do this or that. That is not the fricken point and misses it.

Not all subReddits.

It is a moot point to such ppl-- which is a matter of perspective -- but i think our wanting to be more fair or literal and exact.. is always going to be at odds with their understanding. And our obv means Autism .. Aspergers ...
And a reason why among NT types i tend to shut up as much as possible because I know they can spin anything out of something I say... I think that was a big reason fr my selective mutism actually that i saw how they saw things was not too fair and anything can be twisted into good or bad depending on how socially liked the person is..

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I said SOME Reddit subs.

(I know you were joking though)

Plus they literally don't say "All men."

But when you create your own sub, you can create any rules you want and kick people out. I can kick people out when they try to defend any baddies out there or try and change arguments which happens a lot in political topics.

I also have seen the same happening here too, no matter how literal I am, someone here will try and change what I say or add words to what I wrote. Look at what funeralexempire did for example but I know he was just joking because he put that emoji in.

I see you added more.

Yes this happens to me a lot online.

I always had a saying "either I have a communication problem or I keep running into idiots."

But it happens here too because autism is a spectrum so not every person on it is going to be literal and maybe they learned some NT language so they project it onto me when there was nothing to read in between.

yeah.. itès hard for me to always typwe everything cuz my kids may be over my shoulder nad wanting something like now.. i normally edit with "edit to add" to make it cleaeer

Its almost as if radical feminists don't think rationally before opening their mouths. (That's true of any kind of radical)

Anyway, I never thought that feminists are actually planning to go around murdering men. The point is that it is hate speech and should not be tolerated. And yet most of the mainstream social media platforms allow it.

The problem is that radical feminism seems to have taken over much of the mainstream feminist discourse. Is the radical fringe still radical if it becomes the mainstream?


I sincerely doubt that a woman would want to eradicate men simply because she's not interested in marriage. After all, I couldn't care less about country music; but I'd still be horrified if the government started gathering up country signers and relocating them to concentration camps.

I remember that teachers back then couldn't be married because only virgins were considered pure enough to work with children. (Enter disgust ) So I always figured they retired if they did get married.

Love how you mistyped the word type is that context. Lol!

No longer fringe, but still radical. Radical refers to the belief that change is needed at the fundamental level (usually in accordance with ones own particular belief system). From the latin "radicalis", "root".