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22 Sep 2020, 11:09 am

Wow, that is quite a list of right-wing sources! Cherry pick much?



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22 Sep 2020, 11:18 am

2 minutes on google, more like.

And is all that's needed for things not to exist that left-leaning media not report on it?


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22 Sep 2020, 11:23 am

Why not un-based sources? Sorry, but this is the problem with today's political conversation--people just trying to be "right," rather than trying to be a solution.



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22 Sep 2020, 11:29 am

Just because their slogan says BLM doesn't mean they care about black lives. Over 7,000 blacks are killed every year in homicides but BLM only appears concerned about the 1 or 2 who are killed by police. I looked at their history and they appear to be a Marxist group with a goal to replace capitalism with communism. People supporting BLM destroyed black owned businesses while rioting which tells me they don't really care about black people.

If they hate America and want a revolution, they can't be pro-Trump since Trump is a patriotic American who loves America and supports what's best for America and all Americans. BTW, every pro-Trump person I know believes black lives matter. They're just opposed to Marxism.



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22 Sep 2020, 11:30 am

An unbiased source in the US? Why not a unicorn while you're at it?


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22 Sep 2020, 11:33 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
An unbiased source in the US? Why not a unicorn while you're at it?


Cynicism does not make you right. Nor does it justify picking biased sources. But since we are on the topic, perhaps you can give this historical context for the Black rights movement and how history has created it? Do you know anything of the race problems in the US?



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22 Sep 2020, 11:36 am

Wow, this went south quickly...



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22 Sep 2020, 11:39 am

Jiheisho wrote:
Wow, this went south quickly...
When the subject is BLM in relation to the republican party it will tend to go sideways quickly :D


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22 Sep 2020, 11:57 am

Jiheisho wrote:
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Republicans don't believe in government involvement in people's lives


Is that why Republicans increased surveillance powers, law enforcement, laws curbing collective bargaining, worker's rights, reproductive rights, etc? The focus on government control is just different from Democrats. Fun fact, the two largest departments in terms of budgets are the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security, two traditional areas of Republican priorities.
If you read my post,you saw I said the republicans are not always decent.


I am answering your claim in the quote. That has nothing about being decent. Republican priorities can be valid. All I am doing is pointing out that Republicans believe in "Big Government" just as much as Democrats. The priorities are just different.

There has to be some strong Federal Government or a country won't stay together or survive in the world.


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22 Sep 2020, 12:06 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
An unbiased source in the US? Why not a unicorn while you're at it?


Cynicism does not make you right. Nor does it justify picking biased sources. But since we are on the topic, perhaps you can give this historical context for the Black rights movement and how history has created it? Do you know anything of the race problems in the US?


Nor does it make me wrong. Are you going to adress any of what I linked, or are we pretending that "that's right-wing" is a valid refutation of anything? And what exactly would you consider an "unbiased source"?


Well, stuff was bad and then some guy stood up and said he had a dream and that he'd like it if the world would judge his children on the content of their character and not the colour of their skin. Fast forward to now, stuff is less bad, and BLM are a bunch of Marxists that want to make everything about skin colour.


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22 Sep 2020, 12:39 pm

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The BLM is portrayed by the media all the time as anti-Trump, and for Joe Biden, but I thought that BLM was about black lives matter and wanting justice for brutality against black people. Since Trump doesn't have anything to with that, why does it matter if a BLM is pro-Trump or not?

That's like saying well if you are a Christian, you can only vote for a certain leader, or something like that, for example.

Unless I am wrong and the BLM has a rule that you cannot vote for Trump?


Trump uses BLM, and the demonstrations, etc, as boogeyman and as a scapegoat to rally his base against. And to justify more of what they are demonstrating against: police brutality.

If someoneone is trying to start a lynch mob against you, you probably wouldnt vote for him.



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22 Sep 2020, 2:58 pm

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The BLM is portrayed by the media all the time as anti-Trump, and for Joe Biden, but I thought that BLM was about black lives matter and wanting justice for brutality against black people. Since Trump doesn't have anything to with that, why does it matter if a BLM is pro-Trump or not?

That's like saying well if you are a Christian, you can only vote for a certain leader, or something like that, for example.

Unless I am wrong and the BLM has a rule that you cannot vote for Trump?

I can see your point but, BLM is a Marxist organization. Black lives is only the pretext being used as an excuse to destabilize and tear down America.



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22 Sep 2020, 3:02 pm

Trump is only a reactionary. He’s not really interested in helping regular folks. He’s only interested in having power and stifling dissent.

It’s impossible for BLM activists to be pro-Trump. Trump doesn’t want the loosely-organized organization to exist.



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22 Sep 2020, 4:23 pm

Because Trump is quite openly anti-BLM. If one supports BLM it would be hard reconcile that with supporting a politician who dismisses BLM as a terrorist group and who's supporters are deeply hostile towards BLM. Trump support vigilantes who attack BLM supporters, you'd be a fool to support him unless you're also hostile towards BLM.


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22 Sep 2020, 5:33 pm

Trump and his phenomenon is the best thing to happen to BLM and woke ideology. It is no accident the movement has greatly grown in popularity and effectiveness during his term.

They broke norms which made it easier to break more.

When the President appeals to white nationalists gives some truth to the claim that the country is a corrupt and racist to the core and needs to be destroyed.

Just his election is taken as proof that the system needs to be demolished. And don’t forget Trump ran on the idea the the system is corrupt and he is running for reelection on the idea the system is rigged.


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