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14 Dec 2020, 11:53 am

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Yeah, just like Trump's Oath of Office.
or Biden's Oath of Office.  or the oath I made when I joined the Air National Guard 50 years ago.  or the oath I made to a girl over 45 years ago when I asked her to marry me.
Well, you have certainly acted above and beyond your call of duty.  The world is much safer knowing that you stand watch over the morals and ethics of this great nation.  You deserve much laud and recognition for your efforts, and you deserve a reward befitting the service you have performed at great personal sacrifice.

Have a nice day!


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14 Dec 2020, 12:11 pm

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Well, you have certainly acted above and beyond your call of duty.  The world is much safer knowing that you stand watch over the morals and ethics of this great nation.  You deserve much laud and recognition for your efforts, and you deserve a reward befitting the service you have performed at great personal sacrifice.


Thanks Fnord!
[Even though I can recognize it as a sarcastic statement. I must assume you meant well by it.]


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14 Dec 2020, 12:13 pm

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Wouldn't "Doing something about it" be hypocritical if we (Britain and America) also have our own spies in China and other places?
Oh, but we do not have "Spies"!  No, no, no ... we have "Intelligence Agents".

Doing something about commie spies would not be hypocritical at all!


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HAHAHAHAHA! You made me laugh.


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14 Dec 2020, 12:22 pm

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Wouldn't "Doing something about it" be hypocritical if we (Britain and America) also have our own spies in China and other places?
Oh, but we do not have "Spies"!  No, no, no ... we have "Intelligence Agents".

Doing something about commie spies would not be hypocritical at all!


:wink:


HAHAHAHAHA! You made me laugh.
That was my intent; to make someone laugh.  More?

This is a dirty, no-good, commie spy...
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This is an intelligence agent...
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See the difference?


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14 Dec 2020, 2:42 pm

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One other comment. Those that are on the list are not necessarily spies. But they are individuals who have sworn an oath to the Chinese Communist Party. And these oaths are not to be taken too lightly.

The Chinese Communist party has almost 92 million members.



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14 Dec 2020, 4:46 pm

Fnord wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
Wouldn't "Doing something about it" be hypocritical if we (Britain and America) also have our own spies in China and other places?
Oh, but we do not have "Spies"!  No, no, no ... we have "Intelligence Agents".

Doing something about commie spies would not be hypocritical at all!


:wink:


HAHAHAHAHA! You made me laugh.
That was my intent; to make someone laugh.  More?

This is a dirty, no-good, commie spy...
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This is an intelligence agent...
Image


See the difference?


James Bond has much better PR. Beyond that, not much.


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14 Dec 2020, 8:39 pm

We're pretty much squash rot at this point - ie. anyone who can raid the US for technology, military information, etc. might as well. Remembering what Mark Twain said about changing both politicians and diapers often for the same reasons, we haven't done such a great job.

I was also looking for a really short video by Gad Saad on 'Ostrich Parasitic Syndrome'. It shows up a lot in topics like this, was hoping he'd have one under five minute video of his usual pithy zingers but unfortunately most were case-specific.


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14 Dec 2020, 9:59 pm

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A database of membership records of 2 million Chinese Communist Party (CCP) operatives were recently leaked. This showed a network of infiltrations outside China.


There were some ninnies who were protecting the CCP.
Silly buggers. 8)



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14 Dec 2020, 10:08 pm

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China Censors Boast About Influence on Biden, Wall Street After It Goes Viral.

A Chinese professor’s speech boasting about Beijing’s influence over President-elect Joe Biden was removed from the country’s social media platforms after going viral in the U.S., underscoring how sensitive ties between the world’s two biggest economies are after strife under Donald Trump.
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The speech by Di Dongsheng, a professor of international relations at Renmin University, was delivered in November, and boosted Monday after Fox News host Tucker Carlson talked about the remarks and Trump tweeted a clip. Di, who was speaking at an annual event hosted by the nationalistic Chinese website Guan Video, bragged about Beijing’s sway over Wall Street and Biden’s son Hunter and said: “Biden is back! Our old game is back.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... reet-biden



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14 Dec 2020, 10:13 pm

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One other comment. Those that are on the list are not necessarily spies. But they are individuals who have sworn an oath to the Chinese Communist Party. And these oaths are not to be taken too lightly.


Here in Australia, we take spy infiltration seriously.



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14 Dec 2020, 10:15 pm

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Fnord wrote:
Yeah, just like Trump's Oath of Office.
or Biden's Oath of Office.  or the oath I made when I joined the Air National Guard 50 years ago.  or the oath I made to a girl over 45 years ago when I asked her to marry me.
Well, you have certainly acted above and beyond your call of duty.  The world is much safer knowing that you stand watch over the morals and ethics of this great nation.  You deserve much laud and recognition for your efforts, and you deserve a reward befitting the service you have performed at great personal sacrifice.

Have a nice day!


:D


Is constant mocking allowed on WP?



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14 Dec 2020, 10:32 pm

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Chinese Communist Party database leak reveals infiltration into Western companies

An unprecedented leak reveals how alleged Chinese Communist Party members have embedded themselves inside some of the world’s biggest companies.

An unprecedented data leak has revealed how alleged Chinese Communist Party members have embedded themselves inside some of the world’s biggest companies, including defence contractors, banks and pharmaceutical giants manufacturing coronavirus vaccines.

The Australian newspaper has obtained the leaked database of almost two million CCP members – including their party position, birthdate, national ID number and ethnicity – and 79,000 branches, many of them inside companies, universities and even government agencies.

Among the companies identified as having CCP members in their employ are manufacturers like Boeing and Volkswagen, drug giants Pfizer and AstraZeneca, and financial institutions including ANZ and HSBC, according to the reports.

The membership records also show that the CCP has infiltrated the Australian, British and US consulates in Shanghai, with the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade using a Chinese government agency, the Shanghai Foreign Agency Service Department, to hire local staff.

“It is believed to be the first leak of its kind in the world,” The Australian journalist and Sky News host Sharri Markson said.

“What’s amazing about this database is not just that it exposes people who are members of the Communist Party, and who are now living and working all over the world, from Australia to the US to the UK, but it’s amazing because it lifts the lid on how the party operates under President and Chairman Xi Jinping.”

Markson said CCP branches had been set up inside western companies where members, “if called on, are answerable directly to the Communist Party” and President Xi himself. “It is also going to embarrass some global companies who appear to have no plan in place to protect their intellectual property from theft, from economic espionage,” she said.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy ... 7769ae0bae



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14 Dec 2020, 11:18 pm

Around two million CCP members who secretly infiltrated in some of the world's biggest corporations, banks, media groups, universities and government agencies, were exposed due to a massive data leak on Sunday. Though the data was reportedly extracted by Chinese dissidents from a server in Shanghai in 2016 and leaked to an international bipartisan group, Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC), but on Sunday it was shared with the international consortium of four media organisations -- The Australian, the UK's Mail, Belgium's De Standaard and a Swedish editor.

Among the companies mentioned in the list are manufacturers like Boeing and Volkswagen, pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer and AstraZeneca, and banks like ANZ and HSBC. As per the documents, around 600 people at HSBC, Standard Chartered banks are CCP members. Citibank, BNP Paribas, Hewlett-Packard, Mitsubishi, Ernst & Young, KPMG, Siemens, Ikea, Mercedes-Benz, Bank of America and other companies are also mentioned. One of the Indian companies, Tata's Jaguar Land Rover has around 70 employees from the CCP.

But oddly, over 100 references to India, in codewords, surfaced in the database as well. Cryptic names such as The Indian Army, Zhu India School, the founding of India, India Love Jane, Indian red, Indian eagle, India Xiaofu, Zhang India Tiger, Zhang India, Wei Gen India, India and Peace, Wang India, Inter-Indian steel, Kong Qing India, Sang Jia India, Indian eagle, Lu India sister, India wins, Indian temple root, Pan India Moon, India Xiaolei, India Guoping, India reached, Wang India, Zhou India Dream, Indo-Indian, India goes with the clock, Indian rain, Hua India Circuit Board Co., Ltd., appeared in the list. Similarly, India flies far away, Xu India, Indian talent, Indian temple red, India seven sisters, India's big brother, India little sister, Hooper India, The ageing branch of The Indian Village, Indian comfort army, Ren Shuai India, Money in India, Indian Autumn Jubilee, India is a great country, The King of India, The Indian army is good were also mentioned. The database mentioned Zhou India, India patriotic, Indian autumn celery, India Xiaohua, Indian crane, Indo-Indian, India and China, No.116 Wang India Village, Huang India sister, Indian family, Lin India Moon, India's foundation, Cheng India macro, India, Qian India village, India comforts the country, India also smells, Indian Army, India's good talent, Cheng India macro, 72 East India Home, Royal Bridge Village Indian team West Indo-House Circle 1, 22 in the East India Circle of Yuqiao village. However, it was not clear what these references meant and whether these CCP members with names of India codewords, were based in India.

Source: Codeword 'India' figures over 100 times in major China data leak


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14 Dec 2020, 11:26 pm

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All CCP members swear an oath to “fight for communism throughout my life, be ready at all times to sacrifice my all for the party and the people, and never betray the party [and] guard party secrets, be loyal to the party.”

Source: US companies riddled with members of Chinese Communist Party

The State Department concerns about the CCP have resulted in tightened visa rules for its members earlier this month. CCP members and their immediate families now are limited to one-month, single-entry US permits.

The database was verified by international cybersecurity firm Internet 2.0, which found it was originally leaked on encrypted messaging app Telegram in 2016. It was passed on to IPAC six weeks ago by a third party. “We have high confidence this list is authentic,” Internet 2.0 co-founder David Robinson, a former Australian army intelligence officer.

According to the database, 96 members in the Qualcomm Wireless Communication Technology (China) Co. Ltd. Party Branch, and 133 additional members spread over six party branches of Qualcomm Enterprise Management (Shanghai) work for semiconductor manufacturer and 5G wireless technology company Qualcomm, a US-based multinational. Qualcomm was awarded a contract by the Defense Department in 2018 to develop multifactor authentication security systems for US military computers.

Another US company crucial to national security is pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, which began rolling out COVID-19 vaccines Sunday. The database lists 69 CCP members in four Pfizer branches in Shanghai.


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14 Dec 2020, 11:49 pm

John Ratcliffe, the U.S. Director of National Security, warned of the grave threat the CCP represents to the U.S. and the rest of the world in a commentary earlier this month in The Wall Street Journal:

As Director of National Intelligence, I am entrusted with access to more intelligence than any member of the U.S. government other than the president. I oversee the intelligence agencies, and my office produces the President’s Daily Brief detailing the threats facing the country. If I could communicate one thing to the American people from this unique vantage point, it is that the People’s Republic of China poses the greatest threat to America today, and the greatest threat to democracy and freedom world-wide since World War II.

The intelligence is clear: Beijing intends to dominate the U.S. and the rest of the planet economically, militarily and technologically. Many of China’s major public initiatives and prominent companies offer only a layer of camouflage to the activities of the Chinese Communist Party.

I call its approach of economic espionage “rob, replicate and replace.” China robs U.S. companies of their intellectual property, replicates the technology, and then replaces the U.S. firms in the global marketplace.


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15 Dec 2020, 12:11 am

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John Ratcliffe, the U.S. Director of National Security, warned of the grave threat the CCP represents to the U.S. and the rest of the world in a commentary earlier this month in The Wall Street Journal:

As Director of National Intelligence, I am entrusted with access to more intelligence than any member of the U.S. government other than the president. I oversee the intelligence agencies, and my office produces the President’s Daily Brief detailing the threats facing the country. If I could communicate one thing to the American people from this unique vantage point, it is that the People’s Republic of China poses the greatest threat to America today, and the greatest threat to democracy and freedom world-wide since World War II.


I said this over a year ago, and was pooh poohed. :roll:

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The intelligence is clear: Beijing intends to dominate the U.S. and the rest of the planet economically, militarily and technologically. Many of China’s major public initiatives and prominent companies offer only a layer of camouflage to the activities of the Chinese Communist Party.


This is self evident.
If Australia is over run, that is another step closer to America. 8)

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I call its approach of economic espionage “rob, replicate and replace.” China robs U.S. companies of their intellectual property, replicates the technology, and then replaces the U.S. firms in the global marketplace.


And the process works, obviously. 8)