Socially acceptable racism
The point of a photo is showing what racism everyone is okay with and won't challenge and whenever minorities speak up about this stuff, people get upset about it (white fragility) and say they are being too sensitive and all and say things like "people want to see racism now in everything."
I am guilty of colorblindness by seeing everyone as the same and seeing different skin color as having different eye color. This is color blindness. I think this is what many of us are.
Denial of white privilege, I had no idea what it meant to be privileged because I was thinking of things like stuff you earn eg. video games, watching TV, being allowed to ride a bike and these things would be taken from me as a punishment as a kid and my mom called these privileges. I guess this would be white privilege denial if we don't understand what it means to be privileged.
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I wouldn't use this graphics as an arbiter of "what racism everyone is okay with". It's just someone's opinion on it.
I'm still waiting for an explanation how color blindness is considered racist and I'm absolutely not okay with things like school-to-prison pipeline or disregarding experiences of others.
Reminder: I'm from a different culture.
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I'm still waiting for an explanation how color blindness is considered racist and I'm absolutely not okay with things like school-to-prison pipeline or disregarding experiences of others.
The problem with color blindness is this invalidates someone's skin color and their experience as a person of color. It's like telling you "I don't see you as autistic, I see you as Magz." They want to be seen as their skin color and it's part of who they are. They don't want it to be ignored and it's nothing to be ashamed of.
The problem is many of us are taught as children that it's racist to describe someone as their skin color. This teaches the child there is something wrong with not being white. I remember being confused at 11 years of age when my mom was screaming at me for talking about different skin color and saying this girl is darker skin that this other girl and so on. Now after learning about color blindness, I realize my mom was the one who was being racist, not me. I was okay. I was not stereotyping anyone by skin color, I was talking about skin color the way I talk about hair color or eye color. I didn't learn then that there is something wrong with not having white skin or that it's wrong to talk about skin color, I just thought then my mom was having one of her weird moments where she starts to yell for no reason. I was in my twenties when I started to see that it's racist to talk about peoples skin color. My husband said it's because you are only seeing them as their skin color than them as a person. I was like "that doesn't make sense because it's like seeing eye color or hair color" but decided to not mention skin color or people will think I am racist. Now I guess I have to undo that now.
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I'm still waiting for an explanation how color blindness is considered racist and I'm absolutely not okay with things like school-to-prison pipeline or disregarding experiences of others.
The problem with color blindness is this invalidates someone's skin color and their experience as a person of color. It's like telling you "I don't see you as autistic, I see you as Magz." They want to be seen as their skin color and it's part of who they are. They don't want it to be ignored and it's nothing to be ashamed of.
The problem is many of us are taught as children that it's racist to describe someone as their skin color. This teaches the child there is something wrong with not being white. I remember being confused at 11 years of age when my mom was screaming at me for talking about different skin color and saying this girl is darker skin that this other girl and so on. Now after learning about color blindness, I realize my mom was the one who was being racist, not me. I was okay. I was not stereotyping anyone by skin color, I was talking about skin color the way I talk about hair color or eye color. I didn't learn then that there is something wrong with not having white skin or that it's wrong to talk about skin color, I just thought then my mom was having one of her weird moments where she starts to yell for no reason. I was in my twenties when I started to see that it's racist to talk about peoples skin color. My husband said it's because you are only seeing them as their skin color than them as a person. I was like "that doesn't make sense because it's like seeing eye color or hair color" but decided to not mention skin color or people will think I am racist. Now I guess I have to undo that now.
I was thinking of color blindness as seeing and adressing people as individuals first. Sure, there are various aspects of who they are - ethnic, gender, health, profession etc. - but we're all people first. Some basic respect and fairness, and seeing people as individuals with their unique experiences seem the obvious starting point. I generally take this aproach and I like to be approached that way.
It seems, there is something else going on under the same name - some kind of a taboo that makes people ashamed to approach the topic of race at all. That's probably often well-intentioned but definitely unhealthy.
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I am confused hope this even relates to me. I looked up Ariana Miyamoto and it looked to me she faced racism from people for "Not being Japanesse enough."

I also looked up Filipinos in Saudi Arabia and it seems like you are actually agreeing with me so I always find it amusing when people try to argue with me but actually agree with me lol.
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I'm still waiting for an explanation how color blindness is considered racist and I'm absolutely not okay with things like school-to-prison pipeline or disregarding experiences of others.
The problem with color blindness is this invalidates someone's skin color and their experience as a person of color. It's like telling you "I don't see you as autistic, I see you as Magz." They want to be seen as their skin color and it's part of who they are. They don't want it to be ignored and it's nothing to be ashamed of.
The problem is many of us are taught as children that it's racist to describe someone as their skin color. This teaches the child there is something wrong with not being white. I remember being confused at 11 years of age when my mom was screaming at me for talking about different skin color and saying this girl is darker skin that this other girl and so on. Now after learning about color blindness, I realize my mom was the one who was being racist, not me. I was okay. I was not stereotyping anyone by skin color, I was talking about skin color the way I talk about hair color or eye color. I didn't learn then that there is something wrong with not having white skin or that it's wrong to talk about skin color, I just thought then my mom was having one of her weird moments where she starts to yell for no reason. I was in my twenties when I started to see that it's racist to talk about peoples skin color. My husband said it's because you are only seeing them as their skin color than them as a person. I was like "that doesn't make sense because it's like seeing eye color or hair color" but decided to not mention skin color or people will think I am racist. Now I guess I have to undo that now.
Unless you are literally color blind you can not be literally color blind. It is not racist to say "League_Girl2 is black", that is just descriptive. The colloquial term "colorblind" refers to judging a person as is without preconceived notions based on stereotypes. Judging people by their skin color, assuming they had certain experiences based on their skin color as proponents of Critical Race Theory want us to do is racist. Most people can not be 100 percent colorblind. Because of this proponents of Critical Race Theory think of colorblindness is a problem. Colorblindness is a laudable GOAL. A colorblind cop would not engage in actions that result in said cop pulling over black people at a higher rate because of perceived suspicious activity.
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I am guilty of colorblindness by seeing everyone as the same and seeing different skin color as having different eye color. This is color blindness. I think this is what many of us are.
Denial of white privilege, I had no idea what it meant to be privileged because I was thinking of things like stuff you earn eg. video games, watching TV, being allowed to ride a bike and these things would be taken from me as a punishment as a kid and my mom called these privileges. I guess this would be white privilege denial if we don't understand what it means to be privileged.
"Privilege", in the phrase "White privilege", means something UN earned. Thats the point. An advantage you have just because of your skin color. Whether you believe White privilege exists, or not, thats what it means.
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I am guilty of colorblindness by seeing everyone as the same and seeing different skin color as having different eye color. This is color blindness. I think this is what many of us are.
Denial of white privilege, I had no idea what it meant to be privileged because I was thinking of things like stuff you earn eg. video games, watching TV, being allowed to ride a bike and these things would be taken from me as a punishment as a kid and my mom called these privileges. I guess this would be white privilege denial if we don't understand what it means to be privileged.
"Privilege", in the phrase "White privilege", means something UN earned. Thats the point. An advantage you have just because of your skin color. Whether you believe White privilege exists, or not, thats what it means.
The term "White Privilege" defines a real problem ass backwards. As said privilege is something unearned. If a cop sees a white guy driving drunk as a skunk and lets him go because he is white that is giving that driver unfair privilege based on race. If the cop arrests the guy that is not a privilege. Being treated as one should be is is not a matter of being unearned, it is a matter of fairness. Being treated unfairly based on skin color is discrimination. The much higher rates of discrimination based on black skin color are the problem "White Privilege" which assumes based on one's skin color one is being given things they did not earn.
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Do you think that there might historical reasons why "white trash" and the N word are not treated the same?
Maybe I don't know the details, but my understanding is that saying "white trash" is usually about class rather than just race, the certain stereotype of people who live in trailer parks or something. While the N word generally is just about their race.
Do you think this historical context should be expected to be already known and understood by 8yos?
Could be, but I still think that insulting white people about their skin color should be as punishable as insulting black or other non-white people about their skin color. If white people get in trouble for it but colored people (is that a politically correct term?) don't, then wouldn't that be what one would call colored people privilege?
Also, we were all in junior high. That's old enough to know what attacking others for their skin color means if you ask me.
I have similar view on it. When I was asking people to describe what "white privilege" is, they usually gave examples of... being treated with basic decency.
It should never be anyone's "privilege" to go about your life without being harassed. It's not problematic that some have it, it's scandalous that some lack it!
But I suspect the term was coined among people who grew up with discrimination being their "normal". From such point of view, it makes sense. But discrimination is not normal and lack of it should never be a privilege.
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I have similar view on it. When I was asking people to describe what "white privilege" is, they usually gave examples of... being treated with basic decency.
It should never be anyone's "privilege" to go about your life without being harassed. It's not problematic that some have it, it's scandalous that some lack it!
But I suspect the term was coined among people who grew up with discrimination being their "normal". From such point of view, it makes sense. But discrimination is not normal and lack of it should never be a privilege.
The Wikipedia article on the subject givesa detailed history of the concept.
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White privilege ignores the philosophies that say *hardship makes you better/stronger*.
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White privilege ignores the philosophies that say *hardship makes you better/stronger*.
That sounds dangerous - like encouraging being mean to others to "make them better".
Going proudly through hardships is noble. C-PTSD trauma survivors show what happens when hardships go too far.
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White privilege ignores the philosophies that say *hardship makes you better/stronger*.
That sounds dangerous - like encouraging being mean to others to "make them better".
Going proudly through hardships is noble. C-PTSD trauma survivors show what happens when hardships go too far.
There are lots of *empowerment philosophies* that suggest through adversity/hardship we are better off.
Like, "no pain, no gain".
Here is another ...

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