The surge in anti Asian-American hate crimes

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21 Mar 2021, 11:44 pm

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A 68-year-old man punched in the face by a stranger on a Tribeca subway train, leaving him in critical condition, was the latest victim of anti-Asian hate, a good Samaritan who helped the victim told the Daily News.

Police arrested a suspect, Marc Mathieu, 36, of the Bronx, on assault charges Sunday. He was not immediately charged with a hate crime; the investigation was continuing, cops said.

The victim was minding his business riding an uptown No. 1 train when the unhinged assailant, sporting a fedora, black leather jacket, pink hoodie and an elaborate gold necklace, boarded the train about 2:40 p.m. Friday, sources said.

“You motherf---ing Asian,” the snazzily-dressed man yelled, according to witness George Okrepkie.
Source: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-stranger-punch-manhattan-subway-20210321-itxysblgfzdqtcl27mnrvws65u-story.html



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22 Mar 2021, 12:27 am

GGPViper wrote:
Some food for thought (just as suggested in the OP):

Hswen et al. (2021) wrote:
Objectives. To examine the extent to which the phrases, “COVID-19” and “Chinese virus” were associated with anti-Asian sentiments.

Methods. Data were collected from Twitter’s Application Programming Interface, which included the hashtags “#covid19” or “#chinesevirus.” We analyzed tweets from March 9 to 23, 2020, corresponding to the week before and the week after President Donald J. Trump’s tweet with the phrase, “Chinese Virus.” Our analysis focused on 1 273 141 hashtags.

Results. One fifth (19.7%) of the 495 289 hashtags with #covid19 showed anti-Asian sentiment, compared with half (50.4%) of the 777 852 hashtags with #chinesevirus. When comparing the week before March 16, 2020, to the week after, there was a significantly greater increase in anti-Asian hashtags associated with #chinesevirus compared with #covid19 (P < .001).

Conclusions. Our data provide new empirical evidence supporting recommendations to use the less-stigmatizing term “COVID-19,” instead of “Chinese virus.”

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/1 ... 021.306154
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/p ... 021.306154 (see page 3 for definitions)

... but did this really surprise anyone?


You think the orange blob is every going to take responsibility for his dog whistling against Chinese Americans?

He's a cunning fellow though, a large chunk of the Chinese community still voted for him. All this talk about anti-Asian rhetoric yet a whopping 30% of Chinese voters still kiss his fat backside

Even Andrew Yang can't understand it
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/andrew-y ... 06575.html



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04 Jun 2021, 10:35 pm

You can't blame the entire Chinese population for what the ccp is responsible for,
As you can't blame the entire German population for what the Nazi hierarchy did, during WWII,
As you can't blame the entire Jewish population for the imagined treason, during WWI.
Some fools have a problem with this simple concept. 8)



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05 Jun 2021, 5:11 pm

Pepe wrote:
You can't blame the entire Chinese population for what the ccp is responsible for,
As you can't blame the entire German population for what the Nazi hierarchy did, during WWII,
As you can't blame the entire Jewish population for the imagined treason, during WWI.
Some fools have a problem with this simple concept. 8)


Agreed, 100%.


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05 Jun 2021, 5:37 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
You can't blame the entire Chinese population for what the ccp is responsible for,
As you can't blame the entire German population for what the Nazi hierarchy did, during WWII,
As you can't blame the entire Jewish population for the imagined treason, during WWI.
Some fools have a problem with this simple concept. 8)


Agreed, 100%.


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06 Jun 2021, 1:14 am

If there are hate crimes happening against Asian Americans, what is the instigators of the crimes, problems with Asian Americans?



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06 Jun 2021, 1:42 am

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If there are hate crimes happening against Asian Americans, what is the instigators of the crimes, problems with Asian Americans?


They've been stirred up with blaming anything associated with China - or all of Asia - for Covid, simply for having originated in China, and that includes Americans of Chinese and Asian extraction. Trump had been good at working up people's bigotry for blaming China, as he had with stirring up hatred of Latinos.


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06 Jun 2021, 1:51 am

Well I can understand possibly blaming the Chinese government for covid for being possibly irresponsible which lead covid out, but that doesn't mean that Asian Americans are to blame. If Americans want to point to the finger at someone, then why not the Chinese government itself, rather than Asian Americans who did not have a part in it...



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06 Jun 2021, 3:28 am

ironpony wrote:
Well I can understand possibly blaming the Chinese government for covid for being possibly irresponsible which lead covid out, but that doesn't mean that Asian Americans are to blame. If Americans want to point to the finger at someone, then why not the Chinese government itself, rather than Asian Americans who did not have a part in it...


Morons in our midst. 8)
BTW, Wasn't Trump blaming the ccp, rather than Asian Amerians? :scratch:



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06 Jun 2021, 4:41 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Trump had been good at working up people's bigotry for blaming China, as he had with stirring up hatred of Latinos.


For the benefit of those doing mental gymnastics to defend Trump dogwhistling racists
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/un-r ... ?r=US&IR=T



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06 Jun 2021, 5:03 am

It's always interesting seeing a person's words "translated" by those who were not the intended audience, given their high level of dislike for the person in question...Much like listening to those of the right discussing what Mr Biden "means" based on what he says.

Whilst biased translations from those who have no interest\motivation to do more than see "evil" in the speaker\side can be amusing, it's amazing how few people look at what the target audience took from the message... It doesn't hurt to have civil, non-judgemental discussions with people from the left or the right, and is actually quite helpful to correct misunderstandings between what they pick up from messages targetted to their side, compared with how the "other" side translates and presents it.



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06 Jun 2021, 6:32 am

It would seem certain people are selective about what constitutes civil, non-judgemental discussion

Pepe wrote:
Morons in our midst. 8)



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06 Jun 2021, 6:43 am

Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Well I can understand possibly blaming the Chinese government for covid for being possibly irresponsible which lead covid out, but that doesn't mean that Asian Americans are to blame. If Americans want to point to the finger at someone, then why not the Chinese government itself, rather than Asian Americans who did not have a part in it...


Morons in our midst. 8)
BTW, Wasn't Trump blaming the ccp, rather than Asian Amerians? :scratch:


At times he named the Chinese government. Other times, he just said, "China." Then he'd call it the "China Virus," and "Kung Flu," allowing the stupider in America to blame other Americans who are Asian. Very much like how my family during WWI were given sh*t just because they were of German extraction, when Woodrow Wilson condemned "hyphenated Americans."


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06 Jun 2021, 8:14 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Well I can understand possibly blaming the Chinese government for covid for being possibly irresponsible which lead covid out, but that doesn't mean that Asian Americans are to blame. If Americans want to point to the finger at someone, then why not the Chinese government itself, rather than Asian Americans who did not have a part in it...


Morons in our midst. 8)
BTW, Wasn't Trump blaming the ccp, rather than Asian Amerians? :scratch:


At times he named the Chinese government. Other times, he just said, "China." Then he'd call it the "China Virus," and "Kung Flu," allowing the stupider in America to blame other Americans who are Asian. Very much like how my family during WWI were given sh*t just because they were of German extraction, when Woodrow Wilson condemned "hyphenated Americans."


The ccp is made up of Chinese people. :mrgreen:
The ccp controls Chinese policy with a dictatorial iron fist.
Evidence indicates *Chinese* policies were responsible for the pandemic.

I fell foul of this deliberate misrepresentation, also.
I refuse to take ownership of that political spin crap. 8)

The allies said they fought *Nazi* Germany, during WWII, when in fact many Germans weren't Nazis, to put the shoe on the other foot.
They said they fought the Nazis.
Misrepresentation happens all the time. I should know.

If you are suggesting Trump was targeting Asian Amerians, I'd like to see some evidence of that.
It would be politically stupid.

The problem was that he didn't make it clear enough that he was specifically calling out the government that allowed infected workers to spread the virus, that in all probability originated from Wuhan, and probably was the result of a leak from the virological lab based on unfolding information.
The Chinese government lied to him and said the virus would disappear in the warmer months.
Remember, this is the government that lied about the fact that the virus was transmissible to humans, while they were ransacking other countries of PPE.

As I said, I got crucified because I use to expect people to be reasonable/rational and value the Truth, on an autistic website.
I am no longer that naive. 8)



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06 Jun 2021, 8:26 pm

Well there are some people coming out and saying that the virus has characteristics in it that suggest it is man made and not found in nature. But if this is true, what would be the motivation for manufacturing a virus though?



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06 Jun 2021, 8:42 pm

Pepe wrote:
The problem was that he didn't make it clear enough that he was specifically calling out the government that allowed infected workers to spread the virus, that in all probability originated from Wuhan, and probably was the result of a leak from the virological lab based on unfolding information.
The Chinese government lied to him and said the virus would disappear in the warmer months.
Remember, this is the government that lied about the fact that the virus was transmissible to humans, while they were ransacking other countries of PPE.


There is also the problem that "news" seems to consist of editorialising\opinion, rather than a simple statement of facts, so each media company (CNN\Fox\MSNBC\etc) seem to tailor the message for their specific audience, "translating" messages from the "other side" into what they believe their audience would want to hear\what they would "expect" something to mean - And as the message provided by those media companies aligns with the expectations of their audiences, it must be "true" according to their audience...