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Hey aghogday
thanks for your reply (and thanks to all the others who have replied).
As for numerology, personally i am not big into it. Although i know some still hold great obsessions for numerology and the ancient astrology.
The entire devil worship stuff is really bizarre.
I personally am naturally attracted to light, so i find the antics of all those who are so attracted to the darkness so bizarre.
For me, darkness leads nowhere,
I am more Buddhist in philosophy, so believe that the wealth and power which are sought after by Satanists
are empty or a source of misery as well, as every thing else in this world of illusion.
but the light leads to eternal bliss and peace. Why would anyone want to choose the darkness.
Entry to the bliss is free (just takes lack of attachment)
No magic required.
Smiles, i Agree, Thank You..
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6th of Jan 2021
The rioters themselves did not choose this date.
January 6 just happens to be the date when, by law, the electoral votes for the U.S. presidency are officially counted.
That's why the Capitol riot occurred on that date. Any significance to the number 6 is purely coincidental.
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9 is know as a Satanic number, because it is 6 up side down.
6 is known as a Satanic number, because it resembles a horned entity.
11 is also known as a Satanic number, as it resembles 2 horns.
20 is known as a Satanic number, because if you divide it by 3, you get 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur.
The tragedy that occurred on 9/11 I also consider to be this type of incident. Due to having 9 and 11 in the date, but also combined 9 and 11 = 20.
Are you claiming that Al Qaeda was secretly run by "Satanists"?
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Which branch of Satanism? LaVey (Church of Satan), Satanic Temple, theistic, or something else?
But yeah the idea satanists are going around ritually abusing people or somehow causing bad events to happen on dates involving so called satanic numbers is false, that is not what satanism is.
Agreed.
Alas the Satanic Ritual Abuse scare conspiracy claims are still very much around....
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Wrong assumption here. Please do not assume that Satanists are intrinsically insincere.
lying! or perhaps, especially the practice of lying. As how devilish to spread lies, how Satan (if he/she existed)
would be pleased with such behaviour.
Depends how you interpret the mythology.
Re-read the story of Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis and ask yourself: Who is really the liar here? The Serpent (commonly identified with the Devil) or "God"?
From even a mainstream modern perspective, the "God" of the Bible often comes across as a rather abusive character, to say the least. The ancient Ophite Gnostics felt similarly, and (in "Hypostasis of the Archons," and in "The Testimony of Truth" and "The Apocryphon of John") saw the Serpent as a liberator.
Modern Satanists are not, for the most part, Gnostics. However, my point here is that Satanism's basic subversive reinterpretations of Abrahamic mythology are both very old and not unreasonable. Most forms of Satanism, also, do not take the mythology literally but see Satan as a metaphor.
In pop history, there is the legend of selling ones soul to the devil for material success, which people through modern history have used to subject the talented idols to abuse (and set up to take their lives) when they are 27 (2+7=9). The infamous 27 club.
In pop history, it is associated with Robert Johnson and legends after it, periodically.
wikipedia page on the 27 club
On that Wikipedia page itself I found the following: Why the 27 club is a myth: Jimi Hendrix and Amy Winehouse may be members but that doesn't make it real.
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Last edited by Mona Pereth on 21 Mar 2021, 5:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.
So the rest of what I'd say on that, like what I'd say on synchronicity, is way less popular because it's not reductive materialist.
My point here is not to advocate "reductive materialism" either.
My point here is, very specifically, to oppose today's resurgence of the "Satanic Ritual Abuse" scare and its accompanying grand conspiracy ideology, which I regard as an extreme genocidal danger, not just to Satanists, occultists, and Pagans, but to lots and lots of other people as well.
These days, for example, the QAnon crowd is claiming that all Democrats are Satanic pedophiles. It's pretty obvious where such claims would lead, if their proponents have their way.
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madbutnotmad posted a link to Geraldo Rivera's infamous show from 1988, Devil Worship: Exposing Satan's Underground.
Below are links to a 10-page debunking, "Fact Check: Exposing Geraldo Riveras Exposing Satans Underground," by Nick Peron:
- Part 1
- Part 2
- Part 3
- Part 4
- Part 5
- Part 6
- Part 7
- Part 8
- Part 9
- Part 10
See also, on the Religious Tolerance website, a page about various Geraldo Rivera shows promoting the Satanic panic back in the late 1980's and early 1990's: Geraldo Rivera: Satanic Ritual Abuse & recovered memories. (Alas that page has lots of annoying ads on it.)
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Geraldo Rivera ... PFEH! ... he could not hack it as a real reporter covering real news events, so he spent much of his career either exaggerating the significance of news reports, or making up sensationalized stories of his own.
Do you remember Al Capone's Vault? What a farce! As far as his "Satanic Ritual Abuse" lies are concerned...
In the 1980s there was a panic regarding SRA -- the "Satanic Panic", as it is now called -- which was largely triggered by a fictional book called Michelle Remembers (1980), written by Michelle Smith and Lawrence Pazder, M.D. The book was published as fact but has subsequently been shown to be a hoax by at least three independent investigators. Pazder was Smith's therapist. Subsequent to their book, they left their respective spouses and married each other. Michelle never suffered abuse and Pazder knew this. Her reports of abuse were "the hysterical ravings of an uncontrolled imagination". Pazder himself coined the expression "ritual abuse", and he takes credit for contributing greatly to one of the largest witch-hunts in recent history.
No hard evidence of Satanic Ritual Abuse in North America has ever been found, only anecdotal "evidence -- rumors, speculations, and innuendous questions. Nevertheless, the allegations were widely publicized on radio and television talk shows, especially on Geraldo Rivera's show, and these allegations were accepted by his gullible audience as de facto evidence.
Of the many talk show hosts -- including Phil Donahue, Geraldo Rivera, Oprah Winfrey, and Sally Jesse Raphael -- who have featured episodes which dealt with allegations of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) and discussions of memories formed during Recovered Memory Therapy, Geraldo is stands out, because his programs had the greatest influence over public opinion. He was a showman who knew how to lead people along on his "investigations" to his foregone conclusions, only to fail in delivering on his empty promises.
At least he eventually confessed and issued a retraction and an apology for the damage that his programs had done to innocent people.
A more accurate estimate of Satanic activity in the US includes:
• 10,000 adult members of religious Satanic churches, temples and grottoes.
• 10,000 adult solitary practitioners of Satanism.
• probably in excess of 100,000 transitory teenage dabblers in Satanism.
There is no evidence that any adult Satanist has committed a criminal act related to his religious belief. However, teen-aged dabblers have been shown to engage in minor crimes. These include defacing buildings and tombstones with graffiti, harassing neighbors with "spooky" noises and chanting, and leaving candles burning at crossroads.
People are too easily fooled, and the easiest people to be fooled are themselves.
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Unfortunately this is a bit of an over-generalization. It is certainly true that the vast majority of adult Satanists do not commit criminal acts related to their religious belief. However, alas, there do exist some groups, like the Order of the Nine Angles, that do encourage violent criminal activity. (See, for example, this news story.) But even the ONA doesn't resemble the SRA mythos, and there's no evidence of a massive conspiracy of the kind envisioned by SRA scaremongers.
This too is an over-generalization, in the other direction. There are plenty of "teen-aged dabblers" who aren't criminals either.
For more about Satanism, please see my post here.
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and there are no rituals...
apart from
Satanic Rituals: Companion to the "Satanic Bible"
While the Church of Satan no longer conducts official rituals as it did during its first decade (1966 to 1975 CE), its members can optionally perform rituals, of which the rationale is discussed here (in the FAQ on the Church of Satan's website).
Regarding the other book you mentioned:
The author, Marie RavenSoul, is not a member of the Church of Satan. She is a theistic Satanist. Her beliefs are summed up here.
I used to know her online for a little while back in the early 2000's. As far as I know, she is not a criminal of any kind.
if you read up on the history of Europe, you will discover developments such as the Hell Fire Club.
A club run by white privileged power elite, including members of the Church of England
who frequented the club, for debauchery and ritual "magic" practice.
Aleister Crowley and Benjamin Franklin also frequented the caves where the club was held.
The "Hellfire clubs" were an eighteenth-century phenomenon. (See Wikipedia and BBC (2016) articles.) Aleister Crowley was born much too late to be involved in the "Hellfire Clubs" -- and also died much too soon to have ever visited NYC's BDSM club of that name that existed in the 1980's and 1990's. (The latter club, by the way, had a strong ethic of consensuality -- not a scene of the kinds of abuses that are said to have occurred in the 1700's "Hellfire clubs".)
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From 'Our Friend Merriam-Webster'
Definition of Satan
1 : the angel who in Jewish belief is commanded by God
to tempt humans to sin, to accuse the sinners, and to carry out God's punishment
2 : the rebellious angel who in Christian belief is the adversary of God and lord of evil
First of All, to Determine Who God is, One must
Decide Which One God is; An All Forgiving Version
That Turns The Other Cheek And Loves The Enemy
Same
As
Self
(Note: Dead
Give-Away-Clue)
Yes, The One That Like Dr.
Jekyll And Mr. 'Hide' Turns
Right Around Out of the
'Beatitudes of Matthew'
And TransformS iNto
The ULTiMaTE Un-Forgiver
Changing Meanie, X-Loyal,
Loving Sheep, into Goats and
Burning Them Forever, Eternally
Torturing Them in Ever Lasting
Misery And Suffering For Not Feeding
And Clothing And Giving Free Health Care
to the Immigrant Wanting To Escape Harm
Over A Southern Border of A Country Just Like
Ours Still Now; Okay, That Story's All F'ed Up; What
Do Ya Expect With a Hodge Podge of Script All Taped
Together from Innumerable Ghost Authors As Such, Greek
Writing Romans Too, Selectively Choosing And Changing
Innumerable Sects of Oral Traditions Long Decades After the
Illiterate Little Brown Dude Jesus Never Wrote a Word in the First
Place; Yet Sure, Like Many Others, Could Have Been Tortured on a Cross;
Yet only as Long as Three Days Max Then As Even Tortured Folks on Crosses
Get the Benefit and Blessing of Death to Escape Misery and Suffering; How About
A God Infinitely More Non-Forgiving That That; Yes How About the Definition
of Satan;
That
God
The Bad Cop Foe
Mr. Hyde Version
Beyond Jack The Ripper
Archetype; That God Devil Still
Makes as Foe and Satan Real of
All Forgiving Turning the Other Cheek
Loving Yourself as Enemy As Jesus Christ is
Both
Lover
And Foe
By Story
of Forever
Forgiving True
Yes, Yes, Just Human
With Extremes of Good and
Bad Moods too, to the Very Extreme
of Torturing Folks Who Do Not Agree
Or Don't Hate Their Parents And Follow Your
Cult of Personality Now, Leaving Old Friends and
Family Behind As If they Never Existed at all as this is the
Same Essence of Q-Anon Conspiracy Theories today And Lots
of what We See on Faux News By Charge of Foe Roger Murdock
And All His Trump Demagogue Cult Of Personality 'Lovers' True in Dark too...
It's True though
Lost Cause
Without
Minions to Follow
Despicable Lying Leaders
In 'Father oF ALL Lies' Ways to Control
Subjugate And Dominate Others Demanding
Unfailing Worship; Not Daring to Criticize Either; All
The Opposite of, YeS Anti-to-Agape-Love For All Now
Just
Doesn't
Meet the
Taste and
Smell Taste of True Love
Like Changing Human Sheep into
Goats And Burning them Forever or
Slicing And Dicing Raped Concubine
Parts and Serving them to 12 Tribes
To Make a Point While Raped Concubine
Begs for Mercy Just to Breathe; True, We
Don't Need
Any
More
Devils
And Satans
And Demons in the
World that Suggest Behavior
of All Natural Gay Folks Is Sin
While Dishing Out All this Fresh Hell
Out of a Book That Already Proves Evil is Still Alive and Real in the World,
Today, Masked With Words That Pretend to Be Love Like God and Jesus too
With an Ultimate Agenda Masked to Subjugate, Master, And Control Dominating
In Ways that at Core Always Seem Centered Around Reproductive Control,
Just so A
Woman
Won't
Be Able
To Pick and
Choose the Best
Mate for Her Now
or when the Current
Relationship Doesn't Work
Out With Ownership Papers or Not...
Human is Very Neuroplastic, With Dark to
Light Epigenetic Potential to Be Unpacked...
Ever See A Soft Recruit Come Back as A Hardened
Soldier to Kill Another Human Enemy Without Hesitation;
Yes, True, Humans Will Be Cold Hearted Killers and Lovers True;
Or Perhaps The Both
In One Lifetime
too as Ya
Don't Get
to Kill All Your
Enemies when not in
War as 'Community Rules Approved'...
In Some Countries, Women Relish the Social
Esteem of their Pleasure Organs Mutilated to
Never Feel Pleasure that way again; Just Because
Someone told 'em it is so; And they are Accepted
For Enduring Torture that way; Is the Christian Church
Different;
If You
Are Gay,
Hell No;
Understand
How it is the Same;
Hell No; Ignorance is the
Real Devil and Evil and the Current
So-Called 'Church of Satan' That Basically
Can't Stand That Obvious Ignorance And Hypocrisy
Judges, Parodies it As That is A Best Way to Protest Evil;
Use Wit
And
Continue
to Survive
And Thrive;
Remember on
Easter; Real Bugs Bunny
Is too Smart to Get Crucified for Doing Good...
The Greatest Evil is still Part of the Church (The Tradition);
The Greatest Good That Gives to the Poor is still Part of the Church (The Tradition);
Go Figure; The Tradition Reflects Human Nature; Go Figure, Duh, Humans Create
'God' the Trademark Word Among so Many Unlimited Other Metaphors Poetically
And The Church
And All the Teachings
in Their Own Image of CuLTuRE;
Meanwhile, the Naked Part of US
Without CuLTuRE Still Reflects the
UNiVeRSE Whole and More 'God Move And Repose'
HuMaN CuLTuRES CReATinG Beyond iNFiNiTY the
Part that Mathematics Has no Clue to
Measure Our iMaGiNaTioN
Our Creativity And Yes
Essence oF LoVE
DarK Thru
LiGHT
Beyond
Means
No Holds
Barred; All that Humans
Will Dream Up and Imagine
And Create More; Nightmares or
Dreams the Same; People Continue
To Worship Pain and Pleasure the Same...
Some of us are capable of More and Protest
in Ways So Deep; Shallow Will Never See at all;
Those Who Do Will Unplug And Set Themselves Free;
This Archetype;
This 'Rage
Against
The Machine'
Is Nothing New
Under A Sun, PRiSoN and FREE SaME,
What Remains is the Rule of Change And
Karma Balance That Survives And Thrives;
AS Humanity Groups, Story Rules;
'Write Your Own', Never
Be A Slave to Someone
Else's
Story Again;
At Least in a Country
DeSiGNeD for the Potential
of Liberty to the Extreme of Free;
This Country, This Freedom i Actually For one (me) Do;
i Write my
Own Story';
The Other
Stories Can
And Will Go to
Hell Now if they Wanna...
Feathers Float, Some Rise,
Some Fall, Winds be Come Now...
Free LoVinG iT All
NoW
DarK
Thru
LiGHT Beyond
All of What 'Science'
Will Never Ever Measure;
At Least Not WitH A Tool
As Small As A 5 Step Method; hehe...
"What's
Up Doc,"
"Bugs Bunny"
THReADS ALL OVeR
'Chaos MaGiC' Rabbit WHoLES More;
Meanwhile, 'Elmer Fudds' Still Rule 'Faux
News' With a K of DarK MaGiC More
Just Another Way Dark
Demagogues
Veil
With
DarK IGNoRaNCE
To Subjugate, Control,
And Dominate Others; Not
Withstanding Harm, Rape,
Maiming, And Killing
And Stuff
Like
Half A MiLLioN
Pandemic Deaths
That Were Not Necessary in Those NumBeRS
If True Evil Still Does Not Rule in Ignorance then...
3,000 Plus People Died A Day; Much of it was Preventable,
Then Leaving Ignorance And Lies Behind; 10 People Were
Killed Singularly By 'Similar Demagoguery' Yesterday More Likely
It Seems; What's the Difference; one Set of Murders Hidden Mostly From View...
Yet, Ironically
Left Unmasked;
Ignorance Plain
To See IN Public For All...
Oh Human, Oh Human,
Oh Sad 'Little HumanS' iGNoRaNCE
True Evil that Harms, Rapes, Maims, Kills Most, indeed...
Folks With Asperger's Syndrome Tend to Be More Outcast From
The 'Group Think' oF iGNoRaNCE That Part of Visiting 'Here' Like Heaven too...
Yet of
Course,
People are
Alike ALL OVeR...
Change is the Rule...
Balance We Seek And Find,
All-In-All in Balance, We Survive And Actually Thrive...
Nah, i Don't 'Rage Against the Machine'; i Fly Over the 'Cuckoo's Nest' in Balance And Thrive
At Least in the United States Still Now This is Possible; Make No Mistake, in Some Countries
It is Practically
Impossible;
And In
Most Jobs
Too for Pay...
Unplugging, Challenge
oF A Lifetime for Any Human
Actually To Discard All the Heavy Weighted Gravity Filled
Clothes And Tools of CuLTuRE to Finally FLY iN Balance Free...
A Golden
Age For
Real
With
No 'Heavy Metals'...
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9 is know as a Satanic number, because it is 6 up side down.
6 is known as a Satanic number, because it resembles a horned entity.
11 is also known as a Satanic number, as it resembles 2 horns.
20 is known as a Satanic number, because if you divide it by 3, you get 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur.
The tragedy that occurred on 9/11 I also consider to be this type of incident. Due to having 9 and 11 in the date, but also combined 9 and 11 = 20.
Are you claiming that Al Qaeda was secretly run by "Satanists"?
I am not saying Al Qaeda are satanists, however, I would say that somewhere along the line
those who committed the crimes where manipulated or provoked into committing the crimes on that exact day,
there may have been sleeper agents who infiltrated Al Qaeda who put the ideas in the heads of the crazzies,
I believe some really are that powerful and wealthy.
There are those, such as Steve Bannon, who have the intelligence and the financial resources, as well as the devious
intent, in order to orchestrate such a horrific ordeal. If you read up on Steve Bannon, you will also find out that he used to work in the Twin towers, is a ww2 military strategy fanatic, prescribes to a questionable belief system, had a good understanding as to what impact such a terrorist event would have on the economy (he was prior a hedge fund expert).
He also is someone who i regard as highly manipulative and socio-pathic. Good person to be President Trumps right hand man (or was he really the man in the background that pulled all the strings).
A lot of reality happens behind closed doors
covert to what the public see and are told
The satanic thing has been going on in politics/business/entertainment for many many years.
Just out of interest.
If you guys were wandering why 9 and 11. I believe i explained that 9 was 6 upside down.
So 9 is an inverted 6. Which to some makes it more evil.
11 is the twin horned god.
If you want more references, take a look at the Church of Satan, and see how they revere such Satanic numerology
The "Church's" basic tenants are as established as follows:
The Church of Satan proclaims there are 11 Satanic rules of Earth.
The Church of Satan's 9 Satanic Statements
The Church of Satan's 9 Satanic Sins
LaVeyan Satanism
I believe the number 6 also is held in high regard, as is the combination of 666. ho hum...
For Mona Pereth
Aleister Crowley and Benjamin Franklin also frequented the caves in High Wycombe.
I have been to High Wycombe although i wasn't visiting there in order to visit the infamous caves.
Apparently Crowley did frequent the caves, as did Benjamin Franklin, at one point.
Due to being involved in one of the "clubs" which likely were developments or off shoots of the original
hell fire club. aka Sir Francis Dashwood's Order of the Friars of St. Francis of Wycombe
I have read a few books on Crowley, and from my knowledge of the clubs, yes, i would imagine he would
enjoy or even revel in the aristocratic hypocrisy, like many of such a privileged background.
What I always found extremely ironic about Crowley in particular, is that for all his "magic/k"
which he spent his life involved in and writing books on, he died a poor man addicted to heroin.
Well you could have done that coming from a poor background!... and plenty have R.I.P.
Born into aristocratic privilege and riches, to be the most iconic figure in the occult revival of the 20th / 21st century,
to die a poor drug riddled wretch. Well, a life of magic/k that is supposed to bring you material success,
didn't do him much good. Think Anton LaVey sounded like he had a better run for his money.
Satanic Rituals: Companion to the "Satanic Bible" Mass Market Paperback – 1 July 1998
Another for Mona Pereth.
I note that Anton LaVey is the accredited author, although this, as you mentioned may not be correct.
I do not that the book was released onto the market in July 98, which is after Anton LaVey's death.
I am not an expert on Church of Satan so i can not say what is what from an experts perspective.
I would assume that the book was authored by LaVey, as I would have imagined that his daughter would have sued
if it was unofficial use of his name.
But, i guess this is Satanism, not an area that i have a great deal of expertise in apart from being subjected to abuse at the hands of local morons, who may or may not be into Church of Satan. Perhaps they don't.
I am in the process of educating myself.