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27 Mar 2021, 6:37 am

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I am not much of a drinker, but I am mostly aware that Fosters is not at all a popular beer in Australia. You are being lied to if you were told that they drink that brand.

What about this one:

The last domain of XXXX beer was in Queensland. Castlemaine sponsored the cricket for a while before fading away. They are owned by Lion Nathan who also own Tooheys.

Carlton United are a competitor who own Victoria Bitter.

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27 Mar 2021, 7:53 am

cyberdad wrote:

OutsideView wrote:

Bradleigh wrote:

I am not much of a drinker, but I am mostly aware that Fosters is not at all a popular beer in Australia. You are being lied to if you were told that they drink that brand.

I don't think a human being would survive with a body temperature of 104, after all blood would boil at that temperature. However I can imagine somebody in QL might have evolved a different metabolism from regular people so maybe it's possible.

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27 Mar 2021, 8:05 am

Brictoria wrote:

I think it comes back to a difference in the founding of the countries: (etc.)

Everything you say is reasonable and probably quite accurate as it concerns Australia.

Your points regarding the US are off target regarding the present day situation. So the right to keep and bear arms is the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution. The first 10 amendments were added after somebody complained that the constitution did nothing to guarantee individual rights. Unfortunately, most Americans think these 10 amendments are in fact the Constitution which makes dialog very difficult.

The prevailing interpretation (corroborated by recent Supreme Court decisions I believe although please don't ask for details) is that the 2nd Amendment prohibits any sort of restriction on purchase or ownership of firearms of any sort, period. Any suggestion that this view should be tempered in respect to differences between societal and technological circumstances in the late 18th and the present are summarily dismissed. BTW this is because the Supreme Court is guided by a principle of "strict constructionism" if that helps any.

In conclusion, most Americans believe that ownership and use of firearms is effectively a god-given right of all free men.

So when I suggest many Americans would view Australian restrictions on gun ownership as fascist, I am not exaggerating.

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27 Mar 2021, 9:06 am

Fosters: It's American for Australian beer. :nerdy:

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27 Mar 2021, 9:11 am

Bradleigh wrote:

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Everyone dresses likes Crocodile Dundee ,drinks Fosters, lives in the outback, wrestles salt water crocs for fun and constantly yells out “ Crikey Mate!”

*slap* You take that back!

I am not much of a drinker, but I am mostly aware that Fosters is not at all a popular beer in Australia. You are being lied to if you were told that they drink that brand.

But we do wrestle salt water crocs. We call them salties, on account of them being book wusses over constantly losing fights.

On tv commercials here they always portray Fosters as being Australia’s beer.
We don’t wrestle crocs here in Arkansas, we do bears instead.Alligators are protected so we can’t play with them.

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27 Mar 2021, 9:20 am

So...

what brands of beer DO Aussie drink?

And...for that matter, do Aussies actually drink their own country's brands of beer at all? Or do they just drink Brit, or American import brands?

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27 Mar 2021, 9:32 am

naturalplastic wrote:

So...

what brands of beer DO Aussie drink?

And...for that matter, do Aussies actually drink their own country's brands of beer at all? Or do they just drink Brit, or American import brands?

Down here in Melbourne, I believe VB (Victoria Bitter) is the dominant beer (produced by C.U.B., who also manufacture Fosters)...Not sure about other states, but this probably covers them - https://theculturetrip.com/pacific/australia/articles/the-10-best-australian-beer-brands/.

There's also the trend among the pretentious to go for "craft beers" over those selected by the rest of the population in their areas.

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27 Mar 2021, 10:19 am

naturalplastic wrote:

So...

what brands of beer DO Aussie drink?

And...for that matter, do Aussies actually drink their own country's brands of beer at all? Or do they just drink Brit, or American import brands?

In my life I've never encountered anything to suggest that there is a big market for imported American beers. Possibly in Mexico as Mexicans may have developed a taste for them while here. Also Puerto Rico. I may have occasionally seen American beers advertised in Canada but won't swear to it.

A recent trend I've seen is a taste for "American Style IPAs" which is the first time I've been aware that an American beer style has gained a following overseas. Ironically this type of beer is sometimes derided as a Craft Beer to be avoided by Regular Americans.

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27 Mar 2021, 10:37 am

MaxE wrote:

A recent trend I've seen is a taste for "American Style IPAs" which is the first time I've been aware that an American beer style has gained a following overseas. Ironically this type of beer is sometimes derided as a Craft Beer to be avoided by Regular Americans.

I've never gotten the preference for pisswater over real beer in some circles. It's good to see that one set of American beers are starting to overcome the reputation the other set have.

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27 Mar 2021, 11:13 am

Brictoria wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

So...

what brands of beer DO Aussie drink?

And...for that matter, do Aussies actually drink their own country's brands of beer at all? Or do they just drink Brit, or American import brands?

Hmmm...all look tasty.

Victoria Bitter seems to be the main working man's brand. I wonder if they serve that here at the Outback Steakhouse. Maybe I can start my own import business built upon the "screw Fosters, here is what real aussies drink" gimmick. Maybe sell variety packs with bottles of several different brands (like how Sam Adams sells variety packs of their brand, but with one bottle each of several flavors).

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27 Mar 2021, 12:06 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

MaxE wrote:

I've never gotten the preference for pisswater over real beer in some circles. It's good to see that one set of American beers are starting to overcome the reputation the other set have.

This is in England.

The beer situation in Canada seems to have changed substantially since I was young. Back then, it was 90% either Labatt or Molson. It would seem Budweiser became popular despite being American. The last time I was in Canada it seemed to me that Steam Whistle was a big deal but apparently that's just a local Toronto thing.

BTW when is somebody going to start a thread about offensive Canadian stereotypes? :idea:

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27 Mar 2021, 7:49 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

So...

what brands of beer DO Aussie drink?

And...for that matter, do Aussies actually drink their own country's brands of beer at all? Or do they just drink Brit, or American import brands?

Broadly speaking Brictoria is correct, Tooheys and Vic Bitter are the most widespread (mostly because they are the cheapest) either as cans, stubbies (bottled) or on tap (in a pub).

However, it depends on your sociodemographic background and age.

There's plenty of other brands and it's no longer "pretentious" tp drink craft beers or interstate/overseas beers.

There really isn't a quintessential Australian beer anymore than there's a quintessential wine

I'm partial to the Irish Killkenny

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27 Mar 2021, 7:51 pm

MaxE wrote:

The beer situation in Canada seems to have changed substantially since I was young. Back then, it was 90% either Labatt or Molson. It would seem Budweiser became popular despite being American. The last time I was in Canada it seemed to me that Steam Whistle was a big deal but apparently that's just a local Toronto thing.

I'd argue Labatt's and Molson's are just the Canadian equivalent of the pisswater brands.

Moosehead is what my dad and brother both drink.

I drink grain alcohol from Poland. :nerdy: