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20 Apr 2021, 7:53 pm

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That's a nice apologist rant for Biden and the Dems, but it's conveniently ignoring Biden's backpedaling. He said he would defund the border wall on day one of his presidency. Do you have criticism for that?

As far as Jane Lynch, she should be trashed. The Hollywood elite don't have the same problems as the working class, because she's a millionaire who doesn't have to be concerned about healthcare, putting food on her family's table, or paying her rent or mortage.

Please toddle off to another thread if you want to enable these as*holes. I really am getting sick and f*****g tired of hearing it, because it's destroying our country. That's how we wound up with Trump.


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21 Apr 2021, 10:14 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
They spend the first five minutes side-swiping Jane Lynch (clearly cos they supposedly like her so much) to get at Biden, throwing her under the bus to smear him. Classy.

It was nice of them to not mention that these sections of border wall were already approved and paid for by someone else - a legally binding contract - and cannot be undone just by flailing an arm about and saying "yuh FIYAD!"

This is a game of lose-lose. People are going to whine and cry either way. Sometimes it's the same people losing their minds when he doesn't build the wall, then lose their minds when he does build the wall. Trump built a wall. YAY! Biden stopped the wall. BOO! Biden is still building the wall. BOO! Funny that...

Also, apparently Biden is both still building the wall, AND letting hordes of people into america. How does that work? Especially since the rate of immigrants hasn't really changed in the last 2 years.

It reminds me of the T-1000 in the pool of molten metal, desperately flailing from form to form hoping one will be effective. Like the shotgun approach. Blurt out whatever you can and maybe something will stick. Even if the things said are mutually exclusive and can't all coexist at once.


That's a nice apologist rant for Biden and the Dems, but it's conveniently ignoring Biden's backpedaling. He said he would defund the border wall on day one of his presidency. Do you have criticism for that?

As far as Jane Lynch, she should be trashed. The Hollywood elite don't have the same problems as the working class, because she's a millionaire who doesn't have to be concerned about healthcare, putting food on her family's table, or paying her rent or mortage.

Please toddle off to another thread if you want to enable these as*holes. I really am getting sick and f*****g tired of hearing it, because it's destroying our country. That's how we wound up with Trump.


What does the wall have anything to do with America's working poor? If you mean that illegals are stealing American jobs, that's been disproven time and time again. Americans lose their jobs to automation, outsourcing, and general greed by the business community that works as few employees for as long as possible, and paying them as little as they can get away with.


Uhhh...no. that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about millionares who don't have the same concerns that working class Americans do. I'm talking about apologists for Democrats. How hard is that to understand?


Okay, I just assumed that when you talked about the wall AND the American working class, your point was that brown people were supposedly taking jobs from (white) Americans. You know when you assume- -.
That said, are you of the same mind when super wealthy conservative people and corporations use their voices (and money) to influence politics at the expense of working people and their union representation? Because I can tell you right now, such persons and corporations are fighting for interests that would leave the working class in ruins, and to and extent already has. Or is it only when it comes to liberal people in the arts and entertainment speak their mind?


Neither the Dems or the Pubs give two flying f***s about the working class. I should think my position be fairly clear by now.

I spend more time criticizing the Democrats because so many people still labor under the delusion that they're still serving them. Since Bill Clinton shifted the party way to the right in 90s, and got in bed with all the same corporate interests as the Republicans, we no longer had an opposition party to neoliberalism.

We need to be paying very close attention to what these people are doing, rather than being apologists for them. That's how we got Trump.


While it's absolutely true that the Dems have gotten way too cozy with corporate America, I will never forget how it was their support of organized labor that allowed my dad to bring home a hefty income so that my mom could stay at home, and I was spoiled rotten. It's still the Democrats who support a strong social safety net which working people can depend on during financial disaster.
As I recall, you had been a Trump apologist back in the day.



The Democratic Party of your fathers era bears no resemblance to the party today.

I mever was an apologist for Trumps bad decisions. I condemed him for vetoing the Yemen bill, but didn't hear a peep about it here from anyone. Why? Obama and Biden are responsible for the U.S. involvement (funding Saudia Arabia) for that genocidal war.


I don't recall posting on a Yemen thread. If I had, and not condemned that war, then I apologize.
Actually, I recall you defending many of Trump's bad decisions.


Such as?


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21 Apr 2021, 10:24 am

Pepe wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
That's a nice apologist rant for Biden and the Dems, but it's conveniently ignoring Biden's backpedaling. He said he would defund the border wall on day one of his presidency. Do you have criticism for that?

As far as Jane Lynch, she should be trashed. The Hollywood elite don't have the same problems as the working class, because she's a millionaire who doesn't have to be concerned about healthcare, putting food on her family's table, or paying her rent or mortage.

Please toddle off to another thread if you want to enable these as*holes. I really am getting sick and f*****g tired of hearing it, because it's destroying our country. That's how we wound up with Trump.


:thumright:


It's amazing to me that so many people on an autism support site should fall prey to "group think." We of all people should have better critical thinking skills.


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21 Apr 2021, 5:45 pm

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It's amazing to me that so many people on an autism support site should fall prey to "group think." We of all people should have better critical thinking skills.

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People With Autism Make More Rational Decisions, Study Shows

Source:
Wellcome Trust
Summary:
People with autism-related disorders are less likely to make irrational decisions, and are less influenced by gut instincts, according to new research. The study adds to the growing body of research implicating altered emotional processing in autism.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 110228.htm

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Proving the existence of the rule

This argument states if an exception exists or has to be stated, then this exception proves that there must be some rule to which the case is an exception. ... In other words, under this meaning of the phrase, the exception proves that the rule exists on other occasions.


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Every person is different in many ways, making them an individual. Individuality is an important aspect for anybody, especially in a person with Autism Spectrum disorder. People with Autism could learn, think, communicate, and socialize differently than another person and person with Autism. This is what makes every person such an individual

https://autismindividuality.weebly.com/ ... ality.html

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What is Groupthink?

Groupthink is a term developed by social psychologist Irving Janis in 1972 to describe suboptimal decisions made by a group due to group social pressures. It is a phenomenon in which the ways of approaching problems or matters are dealt by the consensus of a group rather than by individuals acting independently. Essentially, groupthink occurs when a group makes faulty or ineffective decisions just for the sake of reaching an agreement.

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/r ... decisions/



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21 Apr 2021, 8:07 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
They spend the first five minutes side-swiping Jane Lynch (clearly cos they supposedly like her so much) to get at Biden, throwing her under the bus to smear him. Classy.

It was nice of them to not mention that these sections of border wall were already approved and paid for by someone else - a legally binding contract - and cannot be undone just by flailing an arm about and saying "yuh FIYAD!"

This is a game of lose-lose. People are going to whine and cry either way. Sometimes it's the same people losing their minds when he doesn't build the wall, then lose their minds when he does build the wall. Trump built a wall. YAY! Biden stopped the wall. BOO! Biden is still building the wall. BOO! Funny that...

Also, apparently Biden is both still building the wall, AND letting hordes of people into america. How does that work? Especially since the rate of immigrants hasn't really changed in the last 2 years.

It reminds me of the T-1000 in the pool of molten metal, desperately flailing from form to form hoping one will be effective. Like the shotgun approach. Blurt out whatever you can and maybe something will stick. Even if the things said are mutually exclusive and can't all coexist at once.


That's a nice apologist rant for Biden and the Dems, but it's conveniently ignoring Biden's backpedaling. He said he would defund the border wall on day one of his presidency. Do you have criticism for that?

As far as Jane Lynch, she should be trashed. The Hollywood elite don't have the same problems as the working class, because she's a millionaire who doesn't have to be concerned about healthcare, putting food on her family's table, or paying her rent or mortage.

Please toddle off to another thread if you want to enable these as*holes. I really am getting sick and f*****g tired of hearing it, because it's destroying our country. That's how we wound up with Trump.


What does the wall have anything to do with America's working poor? If you mean that illegals are stealing American jobs, that's been disproven time and time again. Americans lose their jobs to automation, outsourcing, and general greed by the business community that works as few employees for as long as possible, and paying them as little as they can get away with.


Uhhh...no. that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about millionares who don't have the same concerns that working class Americans do. I'm talking about apologists for Democrats. How hard is that to understand?


Okay, I just assumed that when you talked about the wall AND the American working class, your point was that brown people were supposedly taking jobs from (white) Americans. You know when you assume- -.
That said, are you of the same mind when super wealthy conservative people and corporations use their voices (and money) to influence politics at the expense of working people and their union representation? Because I can tell you right now, such persons and corporations are fighting for interests that would leave the working class in ruins, and to and extent already has. Or is it only when it comes to liberal people in the arts and entertainment speak their mind?


Neither the Dems or the Pubs give two flying f***s about the working class. I should think my position be fairly clear by now.

I spend more time criticizing the Democrats because so many people still labor under the delusion that they're still serving them. Since Bill Clinton shifted the party way to the right in 90s, and got in bed with all the same corporate interests as the Republicans, we no longer had an opposition party to neoliberalism.

We need to be paying very close attention to what these people are doing, rather than being apologists for them. That's how we got Trump.


While it's absolutely true that the Dems have gotten way too cozy with corporate America, I will never forget how it was their support of organized labor that allowed my dad to bring home a hefty income so that my mom could stay at home, and I was spoiled rotten. It's still the Democrats who support a strong social safety net which working people can depend on during financial disaster.
As I recall, you had been a Trump apologist back in the day.



The Democratic Party of your fathers era bears no resemblance to the party today.

I mever was an apologist for Trumps bad decisions. I condemed him for vetoing the Yemen bill, but didn't hear a peep about it here from anyone. Why? Obama and Biden are responsible for the U.S. involvement (funding Saudia Arabia) for that genocidal war.


I don't recall posting on a Yemen thread. If I had, and not condemned that war, then I apologize.
Actually, I recall you defending many of Trump's bad decisions.


Such as?


While I can't recall anything specific - nor am I going to anally search past threads - I do vividly remember you arguing with me and almost everyone else on threads pertaining to Trump. And I'm pretty certain not every one of those arguments had to do with Syrian aggression.


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21 Apr 2021, 8:49 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
They spend the first five minutes side-swiping Jane Lynch (clearly cos they supposedly like her so much) to get at Biden, throwing her under the bus to smear him. Classy.

It was nice of them to not mention that these sections of border wall were already approved and paid for by someone else - a legally binding contract - and cannot be undone just by flailing an arm about and saying "yuh FIYAD!"

This is a game of lose-lose. People are going to whine and cry either way. Sometimes it's the same people losing their minds when he doesn't build the wall, then lose their minds when he does build the wall. Trump built a wall. YAY! Biden stopped the wall. BOO! Biden is still building the wall. BOO! Funny that...

Also, apparently Biden is both still building the wall, AND letting hordes of people into america. How does that work? Especially since the rate of immigrants hasn't really changed in the last 2 years.

It reminds me of the T-1000 in the pool of molten metal, desperately flailing from form to form hoping one will be effective. Like the shotgun approach. Blurt out whatever you can and maybe something will stick. Even if the things said are mutually exclusive and can't all coexist at once.


That's a nice apologist rant for Biden and the Dems, but it's conveniently ignoring Biden's backpedaling. He said he would defund the border wall on day one of his presidency. Do you have criticism for that?

As far as Jane Lynch, she should be trashed. The Hollywood elite don't have the same problems as the working class, because she's a millionaire who doesn't have to be concerned about healthcare, putting food on her family's table, or paying her rent or mortage.

Please toddle off to another thread if you want to enable these as*holes. I really am getting sick and f*****g tired of hearing it, because it's destroying our country. That's how we wound up with Trump.


What does the wall have anything to do with America's working poor? If you mean that illegals are stealing American jobs, that's been disproven time and time again. Americans lose their jobs to automation, outsourcing, and general greed by the business community that works as few employees for as long as possible, and paying them as little as they can get away with.


Uhhh...no. that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about millionares who don't have the same concerns that working class Americans do. I'm talking about apologists for Democrats. How hard is that to understand?


Okay, I just assumed that when you talked about the wall AND the American working class, your point was that brown people were supposedly taking jobs from (white) Americans. You know when you assume- -.
That said, are you of the same mind when super wealthy conservative people and corporations use their voices (and money) to influence politics at the expense of working people and their union representation? Because I can tell you right now, such persons and corporations are fighting for interests that would leave the working class in ruins, and to and extent already has. Or is it only when it comes to liberal people in the arts and entertainment speak their mind?


Neither the Dems or the Pubs give two flying f***s about the working class. I should think my position be fairly clear by now.

I spend more time criticizing the Democrats because so many people still labor under the delusion that they're still serving them. Since Bill Clinton shifted the party way to the right in 90s, and got in bed with all the same corporate interests as the Republicans, we no longer had an opposition party to neoliberalism.

We need to be paying very close attention to what these people are doing, rather than being apologists for them. That's how we got Trump.


While it's absolutely true that the Dems have gotten way too cozy with corporate America, I will never forget how it was their support of organized labor that allowed my dad to bring home a hefty income so that my mom could stay at home, and I was spoiled rotten. It's still the Democrats who support a strong social safety net which working people can depend on during financial disaster.
As I recall, you had been a Trump apologist back in the day.



The Democratic Party of your fathers era bears no resemblance to the party today.

I mever was an apologist for Trumps bad decisions. I condemed him for vetoing the Yemen bill, but didn't hear a peep about it here from anyone. Why? Obama and Biden are responsible for the U.S. involvement (funding Saudia Arabia) for that genocidal war.


I don't recall posting on a Yemen thread. If I had, and not condemned that war, then I apologize.
Actually, I recall you defending many of Trump's bad decisions.


Such as?


While I can't recall anything specific - nor am I going to anally search past threads - I do vividly remember you arguing with me and almost everyone else on threads pertaining to Trump. And I'm pretty certain not every one of those arguments had to do with Syrian aggression.


Well, if you aren't willing to back up your claim, then don't make claims you can't back up.


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21 Apr 2021, 10:16 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
They spend the first five minutes side-swiping Jane Lynch (clearly cos they supposedly like her so much) to get at Biden, throwing her under the bus to smear him. Classy.

It was nice of them to not mention that these sections of border wall were already approved and paid for by someone else - a legally binding contract - and cannot be undone just by flailing an arm about and saying "yuh FIYAD!"

This is a game of lose-lose. People are going to whine and cry either way. Sometimes it's the same people losing their minds when he doesn't build the wall, then lose their minds when he does build the wall. Trump built a wall. YAY! Biden stopped the wall. BOO! Biden is still building the wall. BOO! Funny that...

Also, apparently Biden is both still building the wall, AND letting hordes of people into america. How does that work? Especially since the rate of immigrants hasn't really changed in the last 2 years.

It reminds me of the T-1000 in the pool of molten metal, desperately flailing from form to form hoping one will be effective. Like the shotgun approach. Blurt out whatever you can and maybe something will stick. Even if the things said are mutually exclusive and can't all coexist at once.


That's a nice apologist rant for Biden and the Dems, but it's conveniently ignoring Biden's backpedaling. He said he would defund the border wall on day one of his presidency. Do you have criticism for that?

As far as Jane Lynch, she should be trashed. The Hollywood elite don't have the same problems as the working class, because she's a millionaire who doesn't have to be concerned about healthcare, putting food on her family's table, or paying her rent or mortage.

Please toddle off to another thread if you want to enable these as*holes. I really am getting sick and f*****g tired of hearing it, because it's destroying our country. That's how we wound up with Trump.


What does the wall have anything to do with America's working poor? If you mean that illegals are stealing American jobs, that's been disproven time and time again. Americans lose their jobs to automation, outsourcing, and general greed by the business community that works as few employees for as long as possible, and paying them as little as they can get away with.


Uhhh...no. that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about millionares who don't have the same concerns that working class Americans do. I'm talking about apologists for Democrats. How hard is that to understand?


Okay, I just assumed that when you talked about the wall AND the American working class, your point was that brown people were supposedly taking jobs from (white) Americans. You know when you assume- -.
That said, are you of the same mind when super wealthy conservative people and corporations use their voices (and money) to influence politics at the expense of working people and their union representation? Because I can tell you right now, such persons and corporations are fighting for interests that would leave the working class in ruins, and to and extent already has. Or is it only when it comes to liberal people in the arts and entertainment speak their mind?


Neither the Dems or the Pubs give two flying f***s about the working class. I should think my position be fairly clear by now.

I spend more time criticizing the Democrats because so many people still labor under the delusion that they're still serving them. Since Bill Clinton shifted the party way to the right in 90s, and got in bed with all the same corporate interests as the Republicans, we no longer had an opposition party to neoliberalism.

We need to be paying very close attention to what these people are doing, rather than being apologists for them. That's how we got Trump.


While it's absolutely true that the Dems have gotten way too cozy with corporate America, I will never forget how it was their support of organized labor that allowed my dad to bring home a hefty income so that my mom could stay at home, and I was spoiled rotten. It's still the Democrats who support a strong social safety net which working people can depend on during financial disaster.
As I recall, you had been a Trump apologist back in the day.



The Democratic Party of your fathers era bears no resemblance to the party today.

I mever was an apologist for Trumps bad decisions. I condemed him for vetoing the Yemen bill, but didn't hear a peep about it here from anyone. Why? Obama and Biden are responsible for the U.S. involvement (funding Saudia Arabia) for that genocidal war.


I don't recall posting on a Yemen thread. If I had, and not condemned that war, then I apologize.
Actually, I recall you defending many of Trump's bad decisions.


Such as?


While I can't recall anything specific - nor am I going to anally search past threads - I do vividly remember you arguing with me and almost everyone else on threads pertaining to Trump. And I'm pretty certain not every one of those arguments had to do with Syrian aggression.


Well, if you aren't willing to back up your claim, then don't make claims you can't back up.


Oh, you know me. I'll do it anyway.


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Well, if you aren't willing to back up your claim, then don't make claims you can't back up.

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Oh, you know me. I'll do it anyway.

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