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05 Aug 2021, 7:27 pm

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Buddy you might have a couple screws loose in your head. Being appalled by genocide and rape is called being a healthy empathetic human being, and being appalled by me being appalled by genocide makes you a giant edgelord

Perfect, you know how to virtue signal then while attacking the weak. Keep it up, hone the skills and fame, riches, luxury yachts, fast women and beautiful cars await you! :3



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05 Aug 2021, 7:34 pm

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Buddy you might have a couple screws loose in your head. Being appalled by genocide and rape is called being a healthy empathetic human being, and being appalled by me being appalled by genocide makes you a giant edgelord

Perfect, you know how to virtue signal then while attacking the weak. Keep it up, hone the skills and fame, riches, luxury yachts, fast women and beautiful cars await you! :3


You've wasted enough of my time

Go seek out a therapist to help you with your issues buddy.

I'm going to the gym after 1.5 months of inactivity due to physical paralysis and I'm not going to reply to this thread or the rest of WP for the rest of today

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05 Aug 2021, 8:35 pm

Watch out with amount of aggression though, it's easy to go over the top. Sure, trying to beat on easy target like me might impress your fellow incels, but incels have very low social status and are widely considered complete losers. Don't get yourself labelled as one :3



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06 Aug 2021, 3:21 am

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Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.

And here is a cheerful picture of what the marines were up to in the Pacific islands:

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I like the skull on a bottle in that pic.


Aren't you an American?
'Nuff said. :mrgreen:



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06 Aug 2021, 3:26 am

Yeah America did similar things Nazi Germany did like human experiments, sterilizing people, rounding up all the Japanese Americans and shipping them off to concentration camps and selling off all their properties.


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06 Aug 2021, 3:32 am

shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.


that may be because most historians think those never happened. as far as I know, there's just one book on this and it's highly disputed.
hard to make a judgment on this, 75 years later, with poor documentation and no whitnesses making any accusations at all.


Some people deny the Holocaust ever happened. 8)

There is a documented plan for poisoning the water supply of large German cities, with the intention of murdering millions of men, women and children, indiscriminately.
It was decided that a man-made famine, with Red Cross food parcels left on the trains to rot and denying prisoners of war the designation of P.O.W so the Geneva Convention rulz didn't have to be adhered to, was a better way to go. 8)

I use life experience, critical thinking skills, and my knowledge of human psychology. 8)

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'An Eye for an Eye': The Jews Who Sought to Poison Six Million Germans to Avenge the Holocaust

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.8094962



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06 Aug 2021, 3:36 am

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Yeah America did similar things Nazi Germany did like human experiments, sterilizing people, rounding up all the Japanese Americans and shipping them off to concentration camps and selling off all their properties.


How many Native Amerians were exterminated by the "New" Amerians?
It must be in the millions?

The Chinese revolution is estimated to have killed 100 million people?
Now, *that* is dedication. 8)



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06 Aug 2021, 5:04 am

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Jknow that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans
I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


Welcome to the truth.

It's the worst kept secret on planet earth.

Indo-Europeans have followed a warrior culture for literally 5000 years without break. The original European nomadic tribes that spread from the steppe practiced the Koryos which is an ancient warrior rite where the young men had to prove their manhood by going on groups and plundering, raping and killing nearby tribes. The modus operandi involved the same thing i) kill the soldiers ii) take the women and female children captive iii) enslave the boys. Over time this was so effective that they spread from the steppe into Western Europe completely displacing all the prehistoric paleolithic populations.

We know this was genocide as Britain's paleolithic population (the people who built stonehenge) are no longer present in the modern genome of the English and celtic populations of Britain. The Anglo saxons then did the same thing to the celts in western Britain.

If you understand this warrior culture then the treatment of indigenous people by the British, Portuguese. Spaniards and French in north and south america is not that shocking.



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06 Aug 2021, 6:05 am

Pepe wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.


that may be because most historians think those never happened. as far as I know, there's just one book on this and it's highly disputed.
hard to make a judgment on this, 75 years later, with poor documentation and no whitnesses making any accusations at all.


Some people deny the Holocaust ever happened. 8)

There is a documented plan for poisoning the water supply of large German cities, with the intention of murdering millions of men, women and children, indiscriminately.
It was decided that a man-made famine, with Red Cross food parcels left on the trains to rot and denying prisoners of war the designation of P.O.W so the Geneva Convention rulz didn't have to be adhered to, was a better way to go. 8)

I use life experience, critical thinking skills, and my knowledge of human psychology. 8)

Quote:
'An Eye for an Eye': The Jews Who Sought to Poison Six Million Germans to Avenge the Holocaust

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.8094962


yes, there were those plans.
but my grandparents all were Nazis. one of my grandfathers was a POW in Russia at the age of 16. But I have never heard anyone - in person or in the media - speak about the Americans treating Germans particularly badly. Not even the Neo-Nazis, who both deny the Holocaust and simultaneously say the bombing of Dresden was just as bad.
Quite literally the only source of this claim is a contested book I stumbled across on the internet one day.

I think relying on one's experience of human psychology is an inadequate approach to determine historical events like the supposed murder of up to a million people. I demand some less contingent indicators.


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06 Aug 2021, 7:10 am

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But I have never heard anyone - in person or in the media - speak about the Americans treating Germans particularly badly. Not even the Neo-Nazis, who both deny the Holocaust and simultaneously say the bombing of Dresden was just as bad.
Quite literally the only source of this claim is a contested book I stumbled across on the internet one day.

I think relying on one's experience of human psychology is an inadequate approach to determine historical events like the supposed murder of up to a million people. I demand some less contingent indicators.


It should be apparent the person you are directing this too is trying to exaggerate what happened to Germany after the war as a form of projection (I won't bother to go into details as I don't wish to trigger this person as he seems to be struggling with old wounds. Something that I'm familiar with but have left behind).



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06 Aug 2021, 7:18 am

White people also exterminate each other.

The Balkan war
Stalin killings
The Great Hunger where the English let the Irish starve ,solved that problem without firing a shot
Spanish Inquisition
Humans are nasty violent little apes.


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06 Aug 2021, 7:26 am

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White people also exterminate each other.

The Balkan war
Stalin killings
The Great Hunger where the English let the Irish starve ,solved that problem without firing a shot
Spanish Inquisition
Humans are nasty violent little apes.


Yeah, it's just they are very very good at it :lol:

The Arabs/Turks come second and the Chinese third.



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06 Aug 2021, 8:12 am

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White people also exterminate each other.

The Balkan war
Stalin killings
The Great Hunger where the English let the Irish starve ,solved that problem without firing a shot
Spanish Inquisition
Humans are nasty violent little apes.


Yeah, it's just they are very very good at it :lol:

The Arabs/Turks come second and the Chinese third.

Africa has a long sad history of tribal conflict.
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/conf ... lenge-2020


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06 Aug 2021, 8:14 am

Damm blue eyed white devils. :lol:


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06 Aug 2021, 10:08 am

shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.


that may be because most historians think those never happened. as far as I know, there's just one book on this and it's highly disputed.
hard to make a judgment on this, 75 years later, with poor documentation and no whitnesses making any accusations at all.


Some people deny the Holocaust ever happened. 8)

There is a documented plan for poisoning the water supply of large German cities, with the intention of murdering millions of men, women and children, indiscriminately.
It was decided that a man-made famine, with Red Cross food parcels left on the trains to rot and denying prisoners of war the designation of P.O.W so the Geneva Convention rulz didn't have to be adhered to, was a better way to go. 8)

I use life experience, critical thinking skills, and my knowledge of human psychology. 8)

Quote:
'An Eye for an Eye': The Jews Who Sought to Poison Six Million Germans to Avenge the Holocaust

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.8094962


yes, there were those plans.
but my grandparents all were Nazis. one of my grandfathers was a POW in Russia at the age of 16. But I have never heard anyone - in person or in the media - speak about the Americans treating Germans particularly badly. Not even the Neo-Nazis, who both deny the Holocaust and simultaneously say the bombing of Dresden was just as bad.
Quite literally the only source of this claim is a contested book I stumbled across on the internet one day.

I think relying on one's experience of human psychology is an inadequate approach to determine historical events like the supposed murder of up to a million people. I demand some less contingent indicators.


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Morgenthau wanted not only subdivide Germany into smaller parts, he wanted to wreck all of its industrial capabilities. In order to keep Germans from making armaments, he wanted to keep them from making anything at all. Industrial facilities were to be destroyed, mines were to be wrecked and filled, experts in production and manufacturing would be forcibly removed from the region and put to work elsewhere. Germany was going to become an agrarian state, set back almost a thousand years.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/ ... many-wwii/

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One of the people who hated Germany and wanted to take it out for good was Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. — and he was almost President of the United States.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-us- ... ?r=AU&IR=T

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Morgenthau Plan - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Morgenthau_Plan

An investigation by Herbert Hoover concluded the plan would result in up to 25 million Germans starving to death. From 1947, US policies aimed at restoring a "stable and productive Germany" and were soon followed by the Marshall Plan.


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Marshall saw communism as a threat to European stability. The Soviet Union’s sphere of influence increased during World War II, and tensions between Eastern and Western Europe intensified.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marshall-plan.asp

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06 Aug 2021, 10:12 am

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Africa has a long sad history of tribal conflict.
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/conf ... lenge-2020


You beat me to it.
Bye, bye, "only whiteys are murderous bastards" line of thinking. 8)

The problem isn't Caucasians.
It is humanity. :eew: