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31 Jan 2022, 5:42 pm

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Homelessness is also caused by greedy landlords who keep raising the rent on you or they raise it by $400. I don't blame it on rich people moving here, the issue is greed so they raise the rent to get rid of their current tenants so they get rich tenants.

We have over 4000 homeless here. They have RVs and tents. How to help them is give them a vacant lot to stay at and provide them a dumpster and Porta potty. Now residents won't have an eye sore in their neighborhoods.


You know, we say greedy landlords but a landlord should not be expected to take a hit either should expenses rise. For example, property taxes here went up 10% for the taxes paid in 2022 and that does not include hikes for property assessments. According to the state, property taxes make up 20% of the rent being paid. There is no way we should ask a landlord to eat that type of raise and if we do, eventually landlords leave the business (especially the mom and pop ones that might overlook a credit mistake and are more willing to take a chance). If units are taken off the market, that leads to less units to house people.


If more landleeches leave the business the homes can be purchased by the state and used as public housing or purchased by private, residential owners who intend on actually living in them. Removing a source of inefficiency is a positive, not a negative.


The state is not buying these homes and most states do not have the money to be able to do that, especially in high rents states such as California or New York. Who buys these homes are REITS, Wall Street investors, or foreign investors who do not care about the community but expect a tenant to have an 850 credit score and unblemished rental record. If they own enough of the homes, they will force the cities to lower property taxes for rental homes under the threat of causing a larger homeless issue, which means that the community has less money for services.

As for home ownership, if you cannot afford the rent, you cannot afford to own a home. The cost of ownership is not just the mortgage. It includes property taxes, homeowners fees is part of a HOA, fire insurance, repair or replacement of appliances, repair of the home, and making sure the grass is cut and the sidewalks are free from snow. You also usually have to pay for water/sewer and any other utility that the landlord usually deals with. And in my state, you get less of a property refund if you own your home vs renting.



Owning a home is cheaper than paying rent because first of all, not all homes are in a HOA area and we don't live in a HOA and two, we can afford to maintain our property because we have savings from money we get from tax return and we put that money away and use it for any home repairs. Plus I do my own yard work and it's not really expensive to hire a gutter cleaner because I can't reach the second floor gutters and it's not safe for me to be up on the roof and attempt to do it and we don't have a latter than can go up that high too. It's not often we have to pay to fix something in our home. A shelf in our fridge broke, it only cost me $84 total to replace the shelf. Our dishwasher broke, only cost us $149 to have it fixed because it was a part that needed to be replaced.

And also I wouldn't even buy a home that is a money pit because then the bank would require more extra money for you to put in a escrow to fix it all the bank wants.

Also if you own a home, you have more freedom because you can decide what color walls you want, what flooring you want, what kitchen cabinets you want. You can pick your own vanity too. If you choose to buy a home in a HOA community, you don't have freedom on your property.


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31 Jan 2022, 6:00 pm

There is also this weird attitude among apartment-dwellers: When you rent an apartment, even your neighbors seem to feel they can dictate your comings and goings, when you can have friends over, when you can do your laundry, and even when you can flush your toilet!

And the complaints:

• I had my telescope out on the top-floor balcony, and the woman living two floors directly below accused me of using it to spy on her.

• Someone complained that the two-wheeled trolley I used to haul groceries made too much noise in the elevator.

• Some teenagers started a fire in the dumpster out back, I called 911, and their mother threatened to sue me for harassing her kids.

• I was doing homework near the pool when some kids came down and started splashing around and making noise.  I took my books back inside and continued doing my homework.  The mother of the kids started pounding on my door and screaming that I had abandoned her kids (who were still in the pool).  She would not listen to the fact that (1) I was not her babysitter, (2) I was not the lifeguard, and (3) she had never asked me to watch her kids.  It took the cops to assure the woman that I was in no way responsible for her children.

The landlady said this was all normal behavior for the apartment complex.



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31 Jan 2022, 7:18 pm

People do act weird about their apartment neighbors and don't seem to understand if it's normal living noise or just them being unreasonably loud. When I lived in an apartment, I could hear everything in the halls. I would never let kids play in the hall because sound echoes. I would close the door quietly at night if I left my apartment so neighbors wouldn't hear it. Bu no matter how quiet you were, you could still be heard and this didn't bother me because it was normal living noise and doors just didn't have sound proof in the wood so I could hear a neighbor leaving and entering the building and going up or down the stairs because they were concrete. I never complained because it was normal living noise and it lasted a few seconds. No one ever played or hung out in the hallway because of sound travel and it was very loud no matter how quiet you are. I could even hear the postman too getting the mail and dropping it off and then closing the mail box and leaving.


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01 Feb 2022, 12:51 am

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Most of the time for the long term homeless there is an underlying mental health condition as opposed to capitalism.

Even the very poor, unemployed or disabled can get some sort of accommodation even if it’s a simple damp room somewhere.

Lived in a few myself.

Many long term homeless though have been in care, been abused before or during in care.

Many have schizophrenia or are on the ASD spectrum with a very low self worth.

Sad situation


I agree with the Schizophrenia & ASD issue. Those are very common in homeless people.

Like you say, homeless people are pushed out of the places & environments they are supposed to be supported in.



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01 Feb 2022, 9:01 am

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. . . homeless people are pushed out of the places & environments they are supposed to be supported in.
1) What places and environments are those?

2) Who says those places and environments are supposed to be supportive?



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01 Feb 2022, 9:13 am

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. . . homeless people are pushed out of the places & environments they are supposed to be supported in.
1) What places and environments are those?

2) Who says those places and environments are supposed to be supportive?


I was chased out of the Autism community, like a Jesus in the desert, for nearly a decade. I should know...

I thought Autistic people were meant to be supportive? But you are correct - they are generally not.

For every 1000% effort I have put in, in the past, I have received about 0.1% effort back from Autistic folk. That has been my experience, anyway.

I should add, that that has changed a lot recently. I now feel about 50% support?



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01 Feb 2022, 9:32 am

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I was chased out of the Autism community, like a Jesus in the desert, for nearly a decade. I should know...
First, you are equating yourself with Jesus.  Second, Jesus was not chased into the desert, he went there on His own -- look it up.
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I thought Autistic people were meant to be supportive?
From where/whom did you get this fallacy?
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For every 1000% effort I have put in, in the past, I have received about 0.1% effort back from Autistic folk. That has been my experience, anyway.
Expecting a return on your efforts is wishful thinking if the transaction was not agreed upon in advance.
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I should add, that that has changed a lot recently. I now feel about 50% support?
Good for you.



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01 Feb 2022, 9:40 am

Fnord wrote:
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I was chased out of the Autism community, like a Jesus in the desert, for nearly a decade. I should know...
First, you are equating yourself with Jesus.  Second, Jesus was not chased into the desert, he went there on His own -- look it up.
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I thought Autistic people were meant to be supportive?
From where/whom did you get this fallacy?
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For every 1000% effort I have put in, in the past, I have received about 0.1% effort back from Autistic folk. That has been my experience, anyway.
Expecting a return on your efforts is wishful thinking if the transaction was not agreed upon in advance.
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I should add, that that has changed a lot recently. I now feel about 50% support?
Good for you.


Perhaps I am deluded then? Only time will tell, padawan.



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01 Feb 2022, 9:42 am

I'll add to that, if I fail - I can always eat 10,000 burgers until I die an early death, along with 100,000 individual french fries and another 20,000 Coca Cola cans (I'm throwing guesstimate figures around here, but the figures will be something epic).



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01 Feb 2022, 11:36 am

I'll say one more thing that I have been thinking about, since reading your response earlier, Fnord.

Jesus went into the desert, because he had the choice to accept evil that would bring him pleasure, or go into the desert hungry and starving of his greatest desires, being tempted to go back to those desires. He chose not to indulge his pleasures to be a better creature in the eyes of the (Christian) God.



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01 Feb 2022, 11:37 am

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I'll say one more thing that I have been thinking about, since reading your response earlier, Fnord.

Jesus went into the desert, because he had the choice to accept evil that would bring him pleasure, or go into the desert hungry and starving of his greatest desires, being tempted to go back to those desires. He chose not to indulge his pleasures to be a better creature in the eyes of the (Christian) God.
You finally read the Gospel, eh?  Well . . . keep reading!



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01 Feb 2022, 11:39 am

Fnord wrote:
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I'll say one more thing that I have been thinking about, since reading your response earlier, Fnord.

Jesus went into the desert, because he had the choice to accept evil that would bring him pleasure, or go into the desert hungry and starving of his greatest desires, being tempted to go back to those desires. He chose not to indulge his pleasures to be a better creature in the eyes of the (Christian) God.
You finally read the Gospel, eh?  Well . . . keep reading!


I am aware that you are more of a bible scholar than myself Fnord, and I am both proud & envious of you, for that.

I think that the idea of going into the desert, was to show the people that exiled him that he was worthy of being followed, for his sacrifice. That has always been my interpretation anyway, since reading that bit of the bible as a child.



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01 Feb 2022, 11:52 am

I remember reading a part about not gloating about ones faith or preaching excessively. I try not to do that unless I need to convince people of certain things/beliefs, that I perceive to be crucial points in my life.

I am by no means a bible scholar, but my faith in God is infinity percent.



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01 Feb 2022, 12:16 pm



SMiLes, A 'Reason' MosT All "Archetypal
Heroes" Go into A Desert in Solitude

Or Sit Under A Tree, Etc, Etc,

Etc, For An Extending Duration

Is They Finally Come to Understand

CULTuRE Provides No Real Inheritance Of Home

And Rid Themselves oF All the Tools And Clothes Same

That CuLTuRE

BRinGS Finding

Themselves Truly

Naked, Enough, Whole,

Complete, With a 'Little'

Help From FRiEnDS And
Even Seeing Sparkles oF LiGHT Left in Enemies

Same Alchemically For Real Within Transforming

Fear of DarKNeSS into Hope And Cynicism oF LiGHT into True Faith As Love

And Do Note, This Dance/Song Comes From my SoUL NoW, Not Owned
by Anyone Yet Free Dance Song...

Nature Deficit Disorder,

NDD, is Just Another Name
And Acroynm For GDD, God Deficit
Disorder; And Yes, HNDD, Human Nature Deficit Disorder

Too, Oh What FreedoM A Desert or Tree May BRing Then/Now or in

my Case, A Beach With Emerald Green Waves, Sea Oats Swaying, Sugar White Sands,
Sea Gull Wings Freeing me too...

True, Getting 'Seeded' Here

A Major Advantage Over

Efforts Only Coming

From Deserts and Trees;

Never The Less, All Freeing Efforts
Naked, Enough, Whole, Complete Worth it...

And Truly So Much More oF A Breeze When
Financially Independent of the Money God of 'That World'....

Set

Free as

i AM Now...

No Longer Homeless
Nature, God, me, Imprisoned Away
In So Many Layers of Clothes/Tools oF CuLTuRE
And Of Course The Big MG, the Money God Now

And All Capitalism, the Religion of the Money God
Brings; Raping, Destroying Fruits of Nature Out of Balancing

Now...

Truly,
A Mortal
Sin, A Zombie
Apocalypse, The Big MG

Where We Continue to
Eat Our Own Face, The Nature of God All...

Oh The 'Soylent Green', Oh The Soylent Green,
Grasping Dead Cold Guns Till The Last Green Breath...



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01 Feb 2022, 3:01 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
I remember reading a part about not gloating about ones faith or preaching excessively . . .
Please cite the relevant Bible passages.

You might be surprised at how much "wisdom" people only imagine is in the Bible.



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01 Feb 2022, 3:08 pm

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Even the very poor, unemployed or disabled can get some sort of accommodation even if it’s a simple damp room somewhere.

In the U.K. maybe? No such guarantee in most parts of the U.S.A.


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