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Carpeta
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14 May 2022, 6:44 pm
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s an umbrella term for a religious movement with varying levels of beliefs and strictness (although they are all against birth control). Some groups let women wear pants; others make them wear prairie dresses. Fnord’s post is not an exaggeration although it might seem like such if one was raised in a more liberal subgroup.
That makes sense. If "Quiverfull" is just an umbrella term for all the people I knew and others more or less extreme, then to describe it as a "cult" seems like an exaggeration -- no clear group, no leader, no membership rolls, nobody keeping track if you stay or leave, nobody stalking you for stepping out of line. I'd say IBLP was a cult (albeit not as scary or all-consuming as David Koresh level), and it was solidly on the "prairie dress" side of things, though my particular family was pretty liberal for being in the group.
I have a lot of sympathy for the Duggar children, now largely the Duggar young adults. They have negative celebrity status not of their own choosing. I cannot imagine the strain on my mental health it would be to see myself in a photo in an ugly article like this. I wish their parents had given them privacy and that journalists wouldn't do this to them. I wish it were illegal to publicize anything about children to be mocked by the masses.
14 May 2022, 6:49 pm
Carpeta wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s an umbrella term for a religious movement with varying levels of beliefs and strictness (although they are all against birth control). Some groups let women wear pants; others make them wear prairie dresses. Fnord’s post is not an exaggeration although it might seem like such if one was raised in a more liberal subgroup.
That makes sense. If "Quiverfull" is just an umbrella term for all the people I knew and others more or less extreme, then to describe it as a "cult" seems like an exaggeration -- no clear group, no leader, no membership rolls, nobody keeping track if you stay or leave, nobody stalking you for stepping out of line. I'd say IBLP was a cult (albeit not as scary or all-consuming as David Koresh level), and it was solidly on the "prairie dress" side of things, though my particular family was pretty liberal for being in the group.
I have a lot of sympathy for the Duggar children, now largely the Duggar young adults. They have negative celebrity status not of their own choosing. I cannot imagine the strain on my mental health it would be to see myself in a photo in an ugly article like this. I wish their parents had given them privacy and that journalists wouldn't do this to them. I wish it were illegal to publicize anything about children to be mocked by the masses.
I think that most groups that are under the quiverfull movement umbrella, including the more liberal ones, would still meet enough criteria to be considered cults. Some cults are more extreme than others, but if a group exerts a lot of control over its members, especially about something as fundamental as birth control, it’s a cult.
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Carpeta
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14 May 2022, 7:34 pm
Carpeta wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s an umbrella term for a religious movement with varying levels of beliefs and strictness (although they are all against birth control). Some groups let women wear pants; others make them wear prairie dresses. Fnord’s post is not an exaggeration although it might seem like such if one was raised in a more liberal subgroup.
That makes sense. If "Quiverfull" is just an umbrella term for all the people I knew and others more or less extreme, then to describe it as a "cult" seems like an exaggeration -- no clear group, no leader, no membership rolls, nobody keeping track if you stay or leave, nobody stalking you for stepping out of line. I'd say IBLP was a cult (albeit not as scary or all-consuming as David Koresh level), and it was solidly on the "prairie dress" side of things, though my particular family was pretty liberal for being in the group.
I have a lot of sympathy for the Duggar children, now largely the Duggar young adults. They have negative celebrity status not of their own choosing. I cannot imagine the strain on my mental health it would be to see myself in a photo in an ugly article like this. I wish their parents had given them privacy and that journalists wouldn't do this to them. I wish it were illegal to publicize anything about children to be mocked by the masses.
Don't quote me, but I think Australia is very good this way, protecting children's identity.
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