Nuclear war

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A "sub" is, I believe, a submarine.
It can carry several missiles.

The whole Cold War was all about ensuring a nuclear destruction doesn't happen. And it didn't happen

So all we have to do is go back to the cold-war-era strategy and hope it works again. In the meantime, the West has done a lot of development towards high-precision weapons and highly effective tactics, which Russia has not. If Russia starts to spew nukes, it's likely NATO does not need to use nukes to effectively disarm Russia. Russian army is already in poor state, after all.

As far as "sub" being "submarine", I know it.

The part that I don't know is how do nuclear submarines work? Do they fire nuclear bombs the same way other things fire them? Are they more effective than other things seeing that nuclear submarine can wipe out a country while other things can't? If so, how do you know Russia won't use nuclear submarine?

By the way, few days ago I read that Russia moved one of its nuclear submarines somewhere. That was the first time I heard of nuclear submarine actually. But that shows that Russia does get ready for a strike.

I also read about a train in Russia transporting nuclear material somewhere.



But the only time there was a threat of similar magnitude was cuban missle crisis.



What stopped Russia from doing it?

Last edited by QFT on 10 Oct 2022, 5:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

No, a nuclear bomb is a nuclear warhead. Missiles, much like aircraft, can carry multiple warheads.

No. I made it clear that even an entire nuclear missile submarine is not capable of wiping out en entire country, especially such a large one. Targeting would involve attacking enemy command and control, nuclear assets, defense assets, critical and military manufacturing, critical infrastructure, and population centers, among other things. There is no attack scenario, even involving a nation's entire arsenal in which they wipe out all the enemies nuclear assets and thereby avoid reprisal.


Please look up MAD and the other things I mentioned.

When it comes to high precision weapons, they did some but they rely on Western electronics, so sanctions effectively limit their capacities there.
When it comes to tactics - good question

Not quite true, we have come very close more times than just now and the cuban missile crisis, in fact there are situations which were arguably far closer to doomsday.

russia prevents russia from developing such advanced technology. It's like asking what prevents the islamic emerits of afganistan from developing advanced missile targeting systems.

russia's military is basically just painted rust manned by conscripts and mercinaries.

Drunk conscripts and mercenaries.

Yup. Some things never change.

Edit: in their defense, I would want to get shït tanked too if I were drafted into the russian military, especially to serve as cannon fodder in an ongoing war.

Let's not forget corruption. Lots of the money that should have gone to the Russian military according to official records actually went to some corrupted Russian higher ups, which is said to be one of the biggest reasons Russia's now getting it's behind kicked.
Dunno how much they talk in the news about the war in other countries (though I'd assume they do it a lot in Poland and others near the front lines), but here in Finland Russia having chopped the branch it should sit on keeps getting mentioned in the news over and over again.

Yeah. Corruption is one of Kremlin's pillars, that's how the modern tsar controls his oligarchs, knowing he can send any of them to gulag for a good reason when he needs to - but it backfires really badly.

And that makes me wonder how many of the ominous nuclear warheads are in just as bad shape as everything else.
Though I'd prefer to find it out via peaceful research during de-nuclearization

Today is Thanksgiving in Canada and I know I should be thankful and all that crap, but I'm not. I'm completely alone and helpless. And the geniuses can take their "thoughts and prayers for wisdom and restraint" and shove it where the sun never shines. Wisdom and restraint, HA! There's no such thing anymore.

They probably won't even use them. Nowadays owning nukes is mostly about deterrence.

They would use them if they were utterly mad and didn't think or care about the consequences. Which "they" very likely are.

Not just mad but utterly mad, totally out of touch with reality is what they have to be.

The consequences will be them. Even if they are safe in some bunker they would be ruling over scorched earth, which is much less then now.

What people are worried about it will become easier and easier to lose touch with reality as the escalation process proceeds until at some point one of the participants will lose complete touch with reality and not realize his bluff has been called, that it’s time to concede and will launch a full on strategic nuclear attack. I would expect because the consequences are so extreme at some point before Armageddon reality will intrude on even the most deluded. I have no desire to see a real world test of my theory.

Even if the escalation process is stopped in an early stage the consequences will be unprecedented.