Gun Control II

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Yeah, it is no big deal. I know what you meant. Anyone else would have said the same thing. I was just pointing out that Carson City has a fair amount of traffic and is right there next to Lake Tahoe. It probably depends on someone’s perspective. I probably heard something similar, but actually try to get there without getting stressed out driving in traffic. I don’t do that one but I have been there.

I have never followed the shootings very much so I started to watch some YouTube videos on the Parkland shooting to see if the shooter was an incel. I don’t think that guy was an incel. I think he suffered from fetal alcohol/cocaine syndrome. I am not making an excuse for him. I’m just saying I don’t think he was an incel.

I don’t think the shooter in Texas was an incel either. Neither were the columbine shooters or the shooter at VA Tech. The shooter in New York is not an increl unless incel is just a synonym for stupid. It seems like there is just one incel shooter. I am sure I am overlooking another one. But … like I said I don’t follow the shootings.

Oh okay.Thanks.

So what are some common sense gun laws?

Every state in the United States that have pursued "common sense gun laws" has only proved that gun safety isn't their concern, and rather, the abolishment of gun ownership. It seems wherever the Left is in control, gun restrictions is just a stepping stone towards outright banning guns entirely.

I agree, I don't agree with arming teachers unless its in a state that wants to do that.

I also think that crime is cultural and your point about the UK prove it. In many liberal cities in the US, crime is running rampant, especially here in the Portland area where it is getting out of control. But in places like Scandinavia and Japan and South Korea, you don't see much of a problem. If I were to bet my money on it, if we dumped all of the guns in America into Scandinavia and Japan, and South Korea, you still wouldn't see a major uptick in crime in those areas. Guns isn't going to make Japanese and Norwegians violent. In the United States, areas where violence is cultural, you see a lot of gun violence, but if you were to make gun access impossible to those areas, they would still be violent by other means.

A lot of good points OP. And you are accurate to diagnose the real intent behind banning AR-15's, and that it is just a stepping stone towards disarming all citizens outright. Everywhere the Democrats rule, there is no limiting principle on what constitutes "too far," and most of their "common sense" gun laws have nothing to do with safety, such as banning body armor, limiting magazine capacity across the board rather than on certain calibers most commonly used on semi-auto rifles, or California's gun registry's attempt to phase out new, safer handguns making it onto their market.

My solution for mass shootings is an impossible one to implement, because it would require the entire culture to change, and its rife for abuse and false-flag attacks. Mass shooters feel wronged or left behind by society, so they want society to feel their pain and know their name. So I think the following, in some utopian alternative reality, would be a good first step to addressing that problem:

1.) Limit all media coverage of the shooting. No in-depth dives into their background to figure out their motive.
2.) Society and the media don't say the shooter's name. Their face is briefly televised, and then blacked out.
3.) No social interest in the trial.
4.) The shooter is killed not long after the incident, and their body dumped in the sea so that they have no grave.

The message society should send to future killers is that we will forget you ever existed, and you will not become famous.

I don't know what I think overall anymore.....

But as a sexual minority, as a gender minority..... I do know that I want myself and other minorities to have a way to deter hate crimes. An armed minority is much harder to oppress.

The actual message sent would be one of an oppressive dictatorial regime, like Argentina.  30,000 People Were ‘Disappeared’ in Argentina’s Dirty War.  Do you want America to be another Argentina?

If so, then why not immigrate to Argentina and be done with it?

Well that's why in my premise I said that it would be rife for abuse or false flag attacks. In a utopian alternative reality, it could work, but why stop at that lol. The human application of it would be messy because humans are inherently flawed. The point of my post is that we should have a culture where we don't give fame and notoriety to mass shooters.

You present ideas based on your own assumptions and prejudices.

Please provide actual instances of the situations you have imagined.

Do people IRL have fun conversating with you?

Only the intelligent and well-educated ones.

OOOOOOH, BUUUURRRRN!

I would say I'm pretty intelligent and well-educated.

Well, of course you would!

By the way . . . "conversating" is not a word found in any legitimate dictionary.

That's fine, you somehow still managed to understand what I meant by it.

Your argument:



was a non-argument. In fact, I don't even know why you responded to me if your just going to dismiss a good point I made that, we should have a culture where we don't give fame to mass shooters.

I'm not here to argue for arguing sake. That was fun in like college but I've kind of grown out of that phase.

Take a look next door in Canada where people aren't blowing each other away on the daily or making pink mist out of a bunch of kindergareners. Have a look at gun laws in other developed countries that don't have the USA's problems with guns.

Yes, of course it involves restricted access. No other country has more guns than people because every other country realizes what sort of problems come with that - and that they cannot be solved by "thoughts & prayers."