I am going to make a Nazi comparison

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did you even think this through before posting? Bathroom bills, adoption bills, medical care bills, indirect work discrimination, DIRECT work discrimination, harassment, murders (which are often excused by the Gay Panic Defense and adjacents) I could go on, are all being passed, happening, or rolled back to make trans peoples' lives worse. 'the worst it gets.' Ha. you have no idea.

Thats exactly what they did not know- even when the Holocaust was happening. Many still deny the Holocaust.

Not saying that you have to agree with the original poster, but I am saying that for your own sake you shouldnt be proudly display so much ignorance.

In fact it was not until...eight years after...Hitler took power that the Holocaust was actually put into motion. Hitler took power in 1933, but the Wannasee Conference (when they all sat down to plan and set up the vast infrastructure of the Holocaust) was not until January of 1941. Those eight years were the "grooming phase" so to speak. Exactly what AS is talking about.

DO NOT CAPITULATE to fascists. They are COUNTING ON YOU to do so. They become MORE POWERFUL when you agree to not "agitate" them (what even is that logic? They already are 'agitated', and they've ALWAYS wanted you, the marginalized, the "different", the "others", to "go away")

Better, agitate THE PEOPLE, rally them so they become aware of, and then counter, the EVER PRESENT spectre of fascism. This is an endless struggle. Which side to you stand on, truly?

I disagree. The intention of this thread seems to be to try and link anti-trans in today's world to genocide. We need to be honest with what this thread is indirectly alluding to.

Hitler made no secret about his thoughts on Jews especially throughout his career.

It's not Nazism. Yikes.

Evidence of a lot of that too? Not only that but evidence that it's government orchestrated and not one offs?

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very well, you want evidence? Here you go. and lots of it.

Bathroom bills: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/more- ... le-can-use

adoption bills: admittedly could not find anti-trans ones, but there are anti-gay ones. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out ... l-n1122436

medical care bills: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/a ... ght-groups

work discrimination (admittedly a bit on the old side but still relevant): https://www.thehrcfoundation.org/profes ... er-workers

harassment: https://vawnet.org/sc/serving-trans-and ... -trans-and

murders: https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-vio ... ty-in-2022

bonus category- housing discrimination: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/fo ... e-pandemic


that enough for you? (this all came very easily with a google search by the way. You seem to be purposefully turning a blind eye.)

Last edited by Readydaer on 27 May 2023, 12:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Don't fight for equality because some people will get grumpy.

Sounds compelling.

Yep.

Actual government or social discrimination though?

Murders are murders, there appears to be very little info as to the motive so why an assumption they were killed because they were trans?

And minors should never be given anything in the form of gender reassignment. They're children.

A lot of just hearsay and speculation and much of that isolated events.

Daer called it, you're just sticking your head up your backside and denying reality because it doesn't suit your agenda.

1. both
2. it's obvious. The Gay Panic Defense exists for a reason.
3. wrong. children can make decisions. genital reassingment is a bit risky but hormonal treatment is good for children suffering from gender dysphoria.
4. you barely skimmed these articles didn't you.

5. you're clearly not in the mindset to accept the harsh reality. I hope you can realize it soon.

Cis people when trans people use different pronouns, dress how they please, use the bathroom like a normal human being and mind their own business: omfg this is oppressing meee how could you do this to me I can't handle changing the pronouns I say to someone or seeing someone in a bathroom with me you're all f*****g disgusting

Cis people when gender reassignment procedures are being illegalized FOR ADULTS, dressing in clothes "meant for the opposite sex" in public is being illegalized, laws are being passed to allow the policing of bathroom use which so far have disproportionately and violently affected CIS WOMEN minding their own business, there are literally growing threats from a good portion of the population to aggressively and violently eradicate trans people, etc.: you are all so sensitive no one's restricting your rights!! ! just let the government tell you what you can and can't wear, who you are, where you can and can't s**t, and control what you can do to your body!! ! I can't believe you're scared of people calling for mass shootings of trans people and literal goddamn re-education camps (YES a growing number of people are saying we should be arrested and "re-educated", including people that are in the government and have actual control whether s**t like this can happen, whether you want to f*****g believe it or not)! !! It's all just free speech you piss babies

Laws are being enacted to protect kids for a reason. They can't make decisions.

I havn't heard of any genuine gay panic for my entire life.

Picking isolated incidents.

Don't care about the harsh reality. It's about time laws were enacted to stop hormonal drugs for kids and ban trans male to female sports cheating. If that's harsh reality then so be it.

And a lot of the links are speculation and personal anecdotes. The homeless one isn't even worth the paper it's written in. They just say they're more likely to be homeless without getting into concrete detail as to why.

gee whiz, if you still don't see it then there's no helping you.