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I found this post to be the most accurate/helpful in this thread.

This post gave me a chuckle.

Excuses excuses excuses and absolving people of personal responsibility for the health of their bodies and their bank accounts. Completely nuts to justify junk food topped with hfcs gravy because ___ life ?? And therefore it’s no one’s fault they’re unhealthy and broke. Nonsense.

Actions meet consequences. Full stop.

The seven sins are post Biblical. Jesus never said "dont engage in gluttony".

In fact he conjured up loaves of bread and fishes out of thin air.

You cant expect him to come back ...and turn big macs back into thin air. Or turn wine back into water.

Though now that you bring it up ...there is a movement of Fundies who try to adhere to a new thing called the "Genesis Diet" (I think thats what they call it).

Eating only plant based food. Supposedly thats what Adam and Eve ate before the fall...and even what animals...even animals that today carnivors like alligators, dogs and cats...ate. Just plants! Even T-Rex was vegan (FYI dinosaurs existed in the Garden...and were wrangled by Noah to be rescued on the Ark).

I had to laugh a bit when I saw this as I cannot eat those three things. Big Macs have eggs (allergic) in their secret sauce. I do not eat tuna as it bioaccumulates Mercury, as do all fish. The only seafood I eat is shrimp, as it does not have that issue. Rice spikes my blood sugar levels too high (runs in my family), so I cannot have it. My diet is restrictive by nature.

You mentioned shopping at Costco if you are in a food desert. You have to figure the gas cost into your budget then. When I lived in Kansas, the nearest Costco was a four and a half hour drive one way. The nearest Walmart is thirty minutes away. (Nearest Sams Club is located near the Costco by the way.). Which one would you shop at? Sure, you can shop online, but get ready to pay for rural delivery rate$.

The issue on food buying is not a simple one to solve.

I can't remember the last time I ate a big mac - maybe one in the last 10-15 years ? (Although I did eat a few mcds burgers several months ago when I was intoxicated) I eat more canned sockeye salmon (that I buy on sale at Costco) than tuna, by far. Tastes better. But if I were trying to minimize food cost I'd probably eat more tuna. Brown rice is the way to go for the lowest glycemic index score + more protein. Costco has coconut battered shrimp w/ sweet chilli sauce back in seasonal rotation in the freezer section now.. omg so good - I had a dozen late last night when I got in from the beach.

As posted previously in this thread, I would shop at Costco every couple months or so just as family and friends do that live 4-5+ hours away from the nearest Costco. Even with gas factored in in Canada or Way up North, it's a better value than buying garbage "food like products," at walmart, especially when you completely load a vehicle to the tits and haul back everything you can. If the vehicle capacity is greater than my own needs, I'd pick some things up for neighbours and offset a bit of the fuel cost.

I already do a costco shop like once every 5-6 weeks or something like that.. really ramped that habit up during peak covidtimes when we were avoiding unnecessary trips to the store. I'd just go spend $1k or so every several weeks and that was that. If I lived far away from a Costco, I'd do larger less frequent trips for all the non-perishables and whatever freezer items I could transport.

Fuel cost in the USA is much lower than in Canada, so it's even easier to justify the long trek. If relocating to somewhere that wasn't a food desert wasn't possibly in the cards, I'd make the drive to Costco every couple months or so and make it work. Zero chance I'd eat hfcs flavoured cardboard from walmart or dollar stores because I didn't feel like making the journey to Costco every couple months. I'd simply make the trek, or pitch in on fuel for someone else' trek etc. I'd find a way to get reasonably healthy food to eat at a reasonable price vs. eat hfcs gravy coated cardboard from walmart or dollar stores as my main diet simply because it was easier to obtain.

Imagine being under the delusion that the rice Walmart sells is somehow worse than the rice Costco sells.

Imagine posting such a deflecting post pretending I ever compared a sack of rice to a sack of rice in any of my posts in this thread.

THATS the worst thing you can say about Jesus?

That he cant stop Americans from being lard asses?

If thats the worst thing than that aint so bad.


And Jesus never even said "thou shalt not be a lard ass".

In fact he never said anything about gluttony nor anything about any of the other Seven sins.


And even if he had he couldnt envision automobiles (that would carry everyone around without them burning calories), nor washing machines (so you wouldnt have to beat laundry against rocks in the stream). Nor could envision that someone would discover a new continent where they grow something called "maize" that could be turned into corn oil that would be used by a future food industry as an ingredient in every food product sold in grocery stores.

No one is obligated to buy “food-like,” products. People can choose to buying actual ingredients and make real food, just as people have done for centuries/millennia. And when buying pre-made food, it’s not difficult to read the ingredients list and avoid the worst of the worst additives and processed crap. They print it right on the label in full disclosure that the contents are BS.

You simply cannot avoid corn oil in any food in the US. Its corn oil or starve.

And Jesus never said "do not eat of ...food made with this grain called "maize" that they grow on...a continent on the far side of the ocean that lies beyond the pillars of Herakles."

Corn oil isn't necessarily a bad thing, according to a quick Google. The real problem is corn syrup which adds a lot of "garbage calories" to ready-to-eat food.

*to a lot of ready-to-eat food, but certainly not all.

People aren't obligated to buy ready to eat stuff out of plastic packages loaded with preservatives and hfcs.

Sure, I buy a bit of it sometimes, but it's certainly not my staple diet and I'm under no obligation to buy or eat any of it ever.

It's not as if grocery stores in the USA don't sell rice, potatoes, onions, fruits, veggies, pasta, meat, fish, herbs, spices, nuts, seeds, natural peanut butter, eggs, butter, oils, cereals, oatmeal, real breads, flour(s), sugar(s), salt etc. It's not as if it's a choice between doritos or twinkies and a coke to wash it down and That's IT that's all grocery stores in the USA sell.. witaf? I've been to grocery stores in the USA, in multiple states, and they do in fact sell real food and ingredients to prepare healthy meals.

We all sin every single day. There's not much that can be done about it other than regularly confessing and attempting to repent

Comes down to cost as well as having the executive functioning and energy to actually prepare a meal as opposed to grabbing something quick and easy.

For people who hold jobs, this is very challenging. Used to be there was multi person households and one adult would stay home and cook and the other would work. Was way easier to eat healthy in that setup.

Just seems Suuuuuuuper hypocritical of Some Americans who are announcing themselves as "Christian Nationalists," and wishing they lived in some theocratic country to go all in on their Christian identity while quite Obviously committing multiples of the seven deadly sins and Not actually living their lives in accordance with the teachings of Christ or the bible - in so many other ways besides diet & exercise, too. It's almost comedic, really.