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14 Jan 2025, 7:57 pm

If that kind of thinking is becoming normalized, then I am scared for mankind.

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14 Jan 2025, 7:59 pm

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If that kind of thinking is becoming normalized, then I am scared for mankind.

Which kind of thinking?

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14 Jan 2025, 8:04 pm

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Here’s my opinion: Joe Smith was a lousy writer. He was obviously just trying to emulate the style of the King James Bible in his writing while being extremely repetitive in doing so, especially in his word choices. With that being said, I find the Book of Mormon entertaining. I have a very fond memory of my son and I reading it together while we were staying in a hotel. There was much giggling involved by both of us because it’s so badly written. That’s NOT to say that all of the Bible is well-written, original, or entertaining (very far from it), but there is a fair amount of interesting content there which continues to serve as a meaningful source of inspiration to writers and artists.

I laughed some with the Quran, too. I recall some very funny passages consisting of something like “Allah is all loving, merciful, and just” followed directly by: “If you have one thought out of line, you’ll burn in Hell forever.” That sort of thing.

I think there is literary merit in some of the Bible and, perhaps, to a lesser extent in the Quran as well. The Book of Mormon…not so much.

I know it's hard to believe today, but Christianity during the time the Bible was being compiled, was on the more liberal side of the spectrum for the time.

The part about the Quran and Islam. Even more sick than in Christianity, but a little more honest I guess.

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14 Jan 2025, 8:06 pm

^ Why would that be hard to believe?

Overall, the Bible is more violent than the Quran is.

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"Killing and destruction are referenced slightly more often in the New Testament (2.8%) than in the Quran (2.1%), but the Old Testament clearly leads—more than twice that of the Quran—in mentions of destruction and killing (5.3%)."

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-en ... 63381.html

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14 Jan 2025, 8:18 pm

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If that kind of thinking is becoming normalized, then I am scared for mankind.

Which kind of thinking?

The thinking that the Bible should be abolished.
When people want to criticize and speak against it, that's one thing, but don't force or make laws persecuting others that read it (whether they are actually religious or otherwise) or practice it.

I would rather both Christians being allowed to make public displays of religion and the same co-existing for other beliefs.

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14 Jan 2025, 8:21 pm

SailorsGuy12 wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

SailorsGuy12 wrote:

If that kind of thinking is becoming normalized, then I am scared for mankind.

Which kind of thinking?

I agree it probably shouldn't actually be abolished, but I don't think mere discussion over whether it should be abolished is a problem.

If the same standards the book-banners want to see applied to modern literature was applied to the bible the bible would be banned, and that's a worthwhile discussion to have if only to twist those people's arms into accepting the other books not being banned as well.

So long as the real goal isn't to ban books, but to protect books from being banned, I see no issue with discussions over the bible being fair game to ban.

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14 Jan 2025, 9:29 pm

SailorsGuy12 wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

SailorsGuy12 wrote:

If that kind of thinking is becoming normalized, then I am scared for mankind.

Which kind of thinking?

Clearly, it shouldn't be abolished or banned, but the book has been used by a number of horrible people over the centuries to justify atrocities. Relying on a ban to address a fringe minority is a lot.

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14 Jan 2025, 10:32 pm

More like... I want it to convert it something makes way less sense yet somehow doable to most people who may get it -- like, make it convert those dubious terms into the old Kemetic knowledge and fits into modernized terms and terminology. :lol:

With a disclaimer that using it to justify abusive crap or make an exclusive group out of it should be illegal, nor is it responsible for someone's recklessness and self neglect for being too stupid to use common sense.

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14 Jan 2025, 11:07 pm

If you think there's something wrong with the Bible then you shouldn't ban it.

You should let any who want to read it, read it so they can see whatever that wrong thing is.

If you ban the Bible than people will build up an image in their minds that it's better than it actually is.

Like, imagine if there was this book that no one can read but it's said to hold the secrets of the universe and beyond. That would build up a hell of mystique.

Banning things only makes them seem cool. Like you're a cool rebel for reading the banned book. People or books that say objectionable things should be shown to the light of day, warts and all.

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14 Jan 2025, 11:15 pm

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I first learned about masturbation in the Watchtower.

I learned from Watchtower that if you get an organ translate from a criminal you will become a criminal because you will get his thoughts and feelings.

I learned that a heart translate is the most dangerous organ translant of all because our hearts contain our thoughts and emotions so by getting a heart translant you are at greatest risk of inheriting criminal tenancies.

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14 Jan 2025, 11:26 pm

^ It must’ve been a very old article. They allow organ transplants and have for decades but not blood transfusions. My aunt gave her husband a kidney. Surely, she could’ve found someone better to give it to.

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15 Jan 2025, 9:16 am

gwynfryn wrote:

Which one?

Sorry guys I forgot I made this thread

It was a fleeting thought I had and I was meaning the bible with jesus and all that sort of stuff

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15 Jan 2025, 9:18 am

TwilightPrincess wrote:

I’m trying to say that: no, we shouldn’t abolish the Bible. I think we need to learn how to read it.

Yeah

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15 Jan 2025, 9:21 am

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Owning a Bible is illegal in North Korea.

You likewise cannot distribute Bibles in Saudi Arabia.

Wow that's interesting

I remember a time when there was a Bible in each and every hotel room in the UK

I used to use the pages of a Gideon bible as cigarette papers

I wonder if I'll burn in hell for that

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15 Jan 2025, 9:22 am

babybird wrote:

I wonder if they should abolish the bible

Censorship is not the answer.

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15 Jan 2025, 9:22 am

funeralxempire wrote:

They should be viewed in the same way the Iliad and the Epic of Gilgamesh are viewed.

Ok I'll check that out if it's a real thing

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