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09 Aug 2025, 10:30 pm

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I agree ethnic enclaves aren't always a great idea.

Personally I think large ethnic enclaves should be discouraged, with the sole exception of land reserved for indigenous people (e.g. the "Indian Reservations" here in the U.S.A.).


Native reserves are similar to Aboriginal settlements in that they are legal entitlements. In Australia there has been some controversy over whom is allowed to claim aboriginal benefits. I did allude to the gatekeeping about identity policed by native Americans as well.



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09 Aug 2025, 10:43 pm

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How old were these men? I would guess late teens or early twenties?

This kind of behavior, alas, is not confined to any particular race or class. When my partner lived in California, he occasionally ran into groups of wealthy young white men who drove around throwing bags of trash at people who were waiting at bus stops.


the young men who taunted us were in their late teens to early 20s probably. And yes granted, young men do stupid things. However the type of intimidation was racist in nature and traumatising given we were on holiday. As I mentioned anti-Indian sentiment is out of control, in many places where Indians migrate.



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09 Aug 2025, 10:50 pm

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But, yes, ethnic tensions can be an additional motive for this sort of behavior.


Yes "return to the land" movement harks back to the green book era for African Americans. But did you know there is also a green book for Indians too. In Ireland and the UK at the moment many parts of the country that are not safe for Indians. Areas with high populations of poorer blacks, Irish and English people across Britain are also no go areas if you look south Asian.



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12 Aug 2025, 11:31 am

Those creeps are not from here and we don’t want them.As for people moving here in general, we don’t want any new people of ANY kind. There is a real estate boom in Arkansas and new people are driving up the price of housing where locals can’t afford to buy or even find a rental house.Homes and land are bought by wealthy outsiders and converted to vacation rentals. Honestly there isn’t a single family home to rent in my county anymore .
Walmart has also been buying vast tracks of land using a fake company name.
This region was mostly white since the settlers were mostly poor Scotch-Irish woodsman and German farmers and a few French trappers. Most didn’t own slaves .So there were few people of color. Now this area attracts white a$$holes that want to move here .
The Harrison chamber of commerce has been fighting racism tooth and nail . Most likely because their favorite color is green and we get tons of tourists from Branson and the Buffalo National River. They want them to feel safe and spend money.
That stupid Klan Wizard , Thom Robb also moved here from somewhere else and we wish he would leave.
This type of cult has been tried here before and failed miserably.
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entr ... lord-4031/
This one will also fail.


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12 Aug 2025, 1:15 pm

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This type of cult has been tried here before and failed miserably.
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entr ... lord-4031/
This one will also fail.

... if indeed it turns out to be the same "type of cult."

The above-linked article describes a group called "The Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord," a "militia-style" group which practiced "guerrilla warfare training" and ended up getting in trouble for criminal activity such as killing cops and preparing to poison the water supplies of several large cities. (Luckily they were busted before they managed to actually accomplish the latter.)

On the other hand, "Return to the Land" is not described, in any articles about it that I've seen so far, as being militia-like or as having any interest in guerrilla warfare. It remains to be seen how violent, or otherwise criminal, this new group turns out to be.


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12 Aug 2025, 3:01 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
This type of cult has been tried here before and failed miserably.
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entr ... lord-4031/
This one will also fail.

... if indeed it turns out to be the same "type of cult."

The above-linked article describes a group called "The Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord," a "militia-style" group which practiced "guerrilla warfare training" and ended up getting in trouble for criminal activity such as killing cops and preparing to poison the water supplies of several large cities. (Luckily they were busted before they managed to actually accomplish the latter.)

On the other hand, "Return to the Land" is not described, in any articles about it that I've seen so far, as being militia-like or as having any interest in guerrilla warfare. It remains to be seen how violent, or otherwise criminal, this new group turns out to be.

Those type communities are popping up in other small rural areas and they aren’t hiding their agenda.
I wouldn’t trust them further than I could throw them.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newsc ... their-city


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12 Aug 2025, 5:33 pm

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This type of cult has been tried here before and failed miserably.
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entr ... lord-4031/
This one will also fail.


It's why I asked who bankrolled this group? Clearly the financial backer/backers want to keep anonymous. It seems they are expanding in terms of land acquisition faster than they are actually growing in numbers. So likely wealthy backers. Also the enterprise is getting donations so unless they trip some legal clause I don't see this "enterprise" collapsing. So long as $$ comes in and no laws are broken I think this commune will continue.

Perhaps the media should stop giving them free publicity. American white conservatives already willingly fund plenty of racist lowlifes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... -extremist



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12 Aug 2025, 6:00 pm

/\It’s all pretty sickening.
I doubt humanity can ever get along.It seems to be getting worse instead of better.


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13 Aug 2025, 2:43 am

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/\It’s all pretty sickening.
I doubt humanity can ever get along.It seems to be getting worse instead of better.


with this lot education and privilege (carrot approach) hasn't worked for 400 years since the first settlement. So no choice but to use punishment (the stick approach).



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13 Aug 2025, 2:55 pm

I'm from South Africa and apartheid was only removed from the statute books when I was in my late 20s. I even witnessed a racist incident a few years before that, which made me see red and contributed to my transformation.

I can assure you that by far the most Afrikaners have no wish to move to Orania, neither do they want to live in the US. Iranian has around 1500 inhabitants: a very tiny percentage of the Afrikaner population.

Today's Afrikaners would also find the religious conservatism far too stifling.


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14 Aug 2025, 3:02 am

enviro, is South Africa really that dangerous for non-African folk? (Europeans, Indians and Asians).



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15 Aug 2025, 3:15 pm

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...As for people moving here in general, we don’t want any new people of ANY kind. There is a real estate boom in Arkansas and new people are driving up the price of housing where locals can’t afford to buy or even find a rental house.Homes and land are bought by wealthy outsiders and converted to vacation rentals. Honestly there isn’t a single family home to rent in my county anymore ...


A lot of rural areas are either becoming gentrified like that, OR turning into relative ghost towns as people leave. Things are always going to change, one way or another.


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16 Aug 2025, 3:18 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
This type of cult has been tried here before and failed miserably.
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entr ... lord-4031/
This one will also fail.

... if indeed it turns out to be the same "type of cult."

The above-linked article describes a group called "The Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord," a "militia-style" group which practiced "guerrilla warfare training" and ended up getting in trouble for criminal activity such as killing cops and preparing to poison the water supplies of several large cities. (Luckily they were busted before they managed to actually accomplish the latter.)

On the other hand, "Return to the Land" is not described, in any articles about it that I've seen so far, as being militia-like or as having any interest in guerrilla warfare. It remains to be seen how violent, or otherwise criminal, this new group turns out to be.

Those type communities are popping up in other small rural areas and they aren’t hiding their agenda.
I wouldn’t trust them further than I could throw them.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newsc ... their-city

I certainly wouldn't "trust them" either.

But I was addressing a more specific question: whether this group will "fail" in the same way that "The Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord," did, by being busted for violent criminal activity and/or plans for same. That's not something we can know at this point.

I certainly agree that these groups are bad news, even if they don't have plans to poison the water supplies of large cosmopolitan cities.

Alas, we can't take for granted that these groups will "fail." Hopefully there are enough people in those regions who are willing and able to resist takeover attempts by these groups.


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16 Aug 2025, 4:00 pm

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It is also harmful to the residents' own LGBTQ+ children, of whom there will inevitably be some. One of the rules of belonging to this "private club" is that you must be purely heterosexual


Yes this is already an issue across conservative Christian communities, not just in "whitetowns". Hypermasculinity is already a badge of honour in rural US or rural Australia, NZ or Canada. Being gay in rural Arkansas in the middle of a whites only community there is nowhere to run or hide.


Please advise on what basis you are claiming that hypermasculinity is a badge of honour in NZ?



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16 Aug 2025, 5:49 pm

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Please advise on what basis you are claiming that hypermasculinity is a badge of honour in NZ?


Learn your history. Colony-settlements all involved male patriarchal families taming the wilderness and armed soldiers fighting the natives (google Māori wars). Rugged individualism is symbolic of men making the wilderness into cities and women taking care of the children is a hallmark of NZ history as much as Australia.

However urbanisation, multiculturalism and feminism has certainly diluted this type of identity, men today redirect this masculinity to sport (Rugby is a religion in NZ) and a hard drinking culture.



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16 Aug 2025, 8:55 pm

Let's agree to disagree. I doubt you are an expert on NZ history.