Should we go to Iran next?

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I don't think he meant christianity in general.

Isn't? it was, but NOW, are you absolutely sure about that?


well, in history I believe some things considered right have changed with the passage of time.

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Nor was I referring to liberal 'c'hristians neither.

I am a bird!! !!

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No let's not go to Iran, it is a silly place.

If we don't Israel will:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_igBMkYtYk[/youtube]

Yeah, but how is Parakeet going to feel good about himself if he isn't murdering people in the middle east ?

more reason to leave israel alone...they're completely crazy and threatening to use nukes. we shouldn't want anything to do with such people. they're terrorists with the ultimate weapon of terror.

parakeet: Stuff Israel. Let 'em blow 'emselves to kingdom come if they want; then they can find out once and for all if they ARE right. I really am sick of all this pretentious crap going on over there. The Jews got 'emselves in the situation they are in, and they expect the rest of the world to bail 'em out. Well, excuse me for having no sympathy, but isn't the whole idea about life being that PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS? If they need their hands held just because the neighbours are getting restless, then maybe they should all get the frock out and go somewhere where no-one can pick on them. Every time anyone wants to talk peace, they themselves start the hostilities because of this bible 'promise'. As I said, if they are too stupid and unable to get on with their neighbours, then they deserve what they get.
It's time they woke up and realised that the middle east does not revolve around them and there are more countries there than them.

Oh, and for all of you who think the Jews are the Chosen Ones, well, I'm happy to say you are mistaken, because there is only one Chosen One, and that is me.

The count down clock on the missle has been ticking for a while. Israel will never allow Iran to get a workable Nuke. We are already on borrowed time over there, as if we weren't already. Get the damn Israelie lobby out of Washington and we might stand a small chance of getting our heads out of our butts. They are not our allies, there is no treaty, they have an agenda. The myth of the Iraelie super soldier got busted big time and they're rethinking the divide and stay safe policy that has been in place since they got independance. They got a big time wake up call on that last little trip into Lebanon. There is time to really change it, but the clock is ticking make no mistake.

Once again you read things into my posts that weren't there. However, I might remind you that the group responsible for the largest genocides ever to plague the planet is the one you refer to. History knows the truth. Killing in the name of one's deity and/or prophet/savior is immoral on both sides.

The super powers coming out of WWII screwed up by stealing the lands away from the Palestinians and giving it to the Jews as appeasement for the Holocaust. Do you remember what religion was behind the Holocaust? The Holocaust was wrong, but it was not right to steal away the Palestinians land. How could they not see the perception this would have in the region. They have been fighting for their freedom from the oppression of the Israeli regime ever since. I do not agree with the tactics started in the 1970's when they turned to civilian targets, but they are indeed fighting an unlawful occupying and oppressive force.

The U.S. treats the governments over there however they see fit depending on which way the oil flows. Sadly, the U.S. could have long ago lost their dependence on fossil fuels if it weren’t for its own corrupt political system. Don’t forget that Reagan and his cohorts supplied Saddam with biological and chemical weapons to fight the extremists in Iran, all the while illegally providing arms to Iran and sending the money from the sales to the Contras. He wanted them to keep each other in check. He also was behind training Bin Laden to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. For decades the U.S. has backed the corrupt Saudi regime, one of the richest in the world, yet the people of Saudi Arabia are some of the poorest and have become disenfranchised. The U.S. hides behind the banner of democracy while secretly making backyard deals with any corrupt government it can to watch out for its own best interests. The rest of the world sees this and knows the U.S. is full of it. Did anybody else notice that the U.S. stopped talking about democracy in Iraq, which was the replacement goal after weapons of mass destruction? What is the goal now? Bases for invading Iran?

You are so naïve and shortsighted to make the comments you do.

what part of 'nuclear bomb' don't you understand?

Parakeet: having just watched that BBC report, I get the feeling that the country you gladly defend would prefer everyone around them to calmly drop all their weapons, and use sticks and stones while the Israelis pound them into submission with nuclear weapons, and blow them off the face of the earth, while saying that they would only use them as last resort? Do you really expect us to help you defend that bunch of.... I won't call them animals because animals wouldn't do that kind of thing; warmongers just because they think they have been aggrieved in having to put up with neighbours who just happen to follow a different faith and a different set of laws? What gives them the right to dictate to places like Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Palestine etc what they can and can't do when they are the ones who started all this s**t in the first place? Jesus Christ, if I were the president of Iran I wouldn't want those bastards trying to tell me how to run my country, just because it doesn't suit them. Yet they can get all the help from the Americans to do what they want, and nobody else is allowed to complain. Well, stuff that for a joke, and I hope they get what is coming to them. About time someone put them in their place.

Or, more important, nationalize their oil industry.

What is this? The United States of ADHD ? Wander from country to country getting involved and caught up, then buggering off to a different country when it gets boring or hard? First Afghanistan, which is STILL a shocking mess, neck deep in the people that were menat to have been beaten.. then Iraq, same situation.. honestly, cant these people finish anything? AS if an Iranian campaign would go any easier, or result in a decent stable outcome where everyone is happy... Iran does have a substantially large military yknow, and unlike the Iraqi military, is much more likely to put up a strong fight. After all, they've seen the mess in other places, and they know whats coming.

Whats with all this anti-israeli sentiment anyway? Are they bothering you? Are they bombing you? Are they declaring war on you? Nope, they arent.

Or are they supporting your actions? Are they supplying you with intelligence? Are they in fact.. ALLIES of yours? Is there not a significant jewish population in the US?

I find it inherently disturbing, as a citizen of a nation ostensibly allied to the US. (Not voluntarily on my part, I might add.) How long before you decide that the UK is a problem, as you are apparently doing with Israel?

No.
Leave some troops in Afghanistan, which was our original intention to go after bin Laden, and then draw everyone out of Iraq.