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06 Nov 2025, 5:19 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
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Putting up with rampant racism in the LGBTQIA+ community who have no-blacks allowed in nightclubs and online dating sites

Can you provide some examples of this?

I have no doubt that there is plenty of informal racism (as well as general cliquishness) in the LGBTQIA+ community. But actual exclusionary policies in nightclubs and on dating sites???


My understanding is for nightclubs bouncers are told to exclude black patrons. On dating sites its the users who say "no blacks". Pride marches give the impression of unity but on the ground white gay privilege is real.

there are too many references to share but you can google personal/lived experience which illustrate the landscape gay black men have to put up with.

Gay bar Number 9 in D.C. used to charge a cover only on Fridays — the night that the crowd was primarily Black. Nellies, a gay sports bar in D.C., also removed certain liquors like Hennessy and hid its glassware on days known to attract Black patrons. The assumption here being that Hennessy is a “Black” drink, and that Black patrons are more violent and thus should only be trusted with plastic cups. Eventually Nellies was also forced to go through anti-discrimination training following complaints from several patrons, including the writer Preston Mitchum.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/w ... cna1024961



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06 Nov 2025, 5:46 pm

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This seems quite a stretch although not being queer myself I can't say for certain.


Not surprising. If you don't live in such spaces you make up assumptions that the gay/queer community are united/homogeneous and cant be racist because they are also discriminated against. I've had the privilege in my university days where my best friend was a gay man. I'm not going to repeat everything he and his friends said but basically they carried the same prejudices against other ethnicities that any other group of white dudes had, if anything there was a lot of microaggression about physical aesthetics - hair, smell, outfits and not "fitting in" culturally and sounding "ghetto" or "ethnic". they openly shared a perception that non-white people were too "unsophisticated" to hang out with.

And yet these men were really nice to me and welcomed me with open arms at a time I had no friends in university.



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07 Nov 2025, 12:39 am

cyberdora wrote:
My understanding is for nightclubs bouncers are told to exclude black patrons.

Can you provide an example of this?

In the news story you summarized and linked to, Black patrons were not outright excluded, though they were subjected to various kinds of demeaning treatment.

I was unaware that even the latter was done in any gay bars as a matter of policy. Thanks for educating me on this matter.


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07 Nov 2025, 2:35 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
cyberdora wrote:
My understanding is for nightclubs bouncers are told to exclude black patrons.

Can you provide an example of this?

In the news story you summarized and linked to, Black patrons were not outright excluded, though they were subjected to various kinds of demeaning treatment.

I was unaware that even the latter was done in any gay bars as a matter of policy. Thanks for educating me on this matter.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/gay-bar ... ly-racist/