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07 Oct 2007, 1:51 pm

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My Aspergerian bliss does not involve 'the world'. I have learned to not trust any 'ism' to project my beliefs onto anyone but myself. Fascism is the dictatorship of the elite (rich) and Communism the dictatorship of the masses (poor ) Power is never given up with out a fight and you will die of boredom while waiting for someone else to 'give' you 'rights'.
One must assume any rights one wishes.

Money is an abstract concept. Humanity lived with out financial concepts before, and will live with out the concept again.

I live internally, and can only live simply to leave the least carbon footprint I can. I am not saving the world this week. Been there, done that.

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Well... I could not have said it better myself! I always enjoy reading your posts! You are 1 of my favorite posters :)


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07 Oct 2007, 1:52 pm

Even in the Objectivist and Aspie Forums, most of the members get their greatest delight out of saying stuff that has the power to hurt. Ye ("ye" is an antiquated but necessary plural of you) trolls shall see that your words are as effective upon me as Jim Taggart's words upon his victims.


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07 Oct 2007, 2:04 pm

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Ye will see that making your own practical philosophy is about as good as making your own computer from bare natural resources, and with reference not to any specific manual, but to parts of different manuals.

So far it looks like one out of four people here are young idealists, and are actually members of homo aspergus.


Hmm... Unfortunatly I must dissagree with you. First off having Aspringers does not mean you are a member of a new species, or even sub-species. Second, You basicly say that the other 75% (assuming 100% have aspie) that they dont belong in this 'sub species' because they are not young or idealist. It is possible I may be confusing what you say I did just wake up and feel I am not thinking clearly at this point...

I agree that people should have their own philosophy of life and seek happyness. It is good to incorporate many different 'parts' to create ones 'whole' of a philosophy on life indeed, i agree with ya their.

I just feel that because we dont agree, or that 75% with you, that still does not make them any less aspie, or the fact that if you are both young and an idealist that makes you part of a new sub species.

I spent years studying, of other things, ecology, i understand speciation... and having aspringers does not put one in a sub species, or even their own new species.


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07 Oct 2007, 2:16 pm

Peter_Grotticelli wrote:
Even in the Objectivist and Aspie Forums, most of the members get their greatest delight out of saying stuff that has the power to hurt. Ye ("ye" is an antiquated but necessary plural of you) trolls shall see that your words are as effective upon me as Jim Taggart's words upon his victims.


So anyone that thinks you're a crock is a troll, eh? After all, you are one of the "evolved" humans, how could anyone possibly challenge you...

I think you will go far, mein Führer.

Oh, just an FYI, a common tactic of trolls is to call someone else a troll. You're doing well. ;)



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07 Oct 2007, 3:42 pm

Shadexiii:
When someone posits something, and then the hecklers throw tomatoes, these hecklers are trolls. Your statements are way more unsubstantiated than mine, because they are unsubstantiable.

Woodsman25:
I meant that 1/4 of the people I've seen so far are young, idealistic, and aspie. The alternative interpretation does not make any sense.

I use hyperbole, but I maintain that homo aspergus is beginning to speciate. For the group was always isolated, in the Pale and now in Israel.

I don't care what ye have to say about the Ashkenazim and AS; for the assocation is obvious to some, and anti-Semitic to others (even though AS is a favorable trait).


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07 Oct 2007, 3:45 pm

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Shadexiii:
When someone posits something, and then the hecklers throw tomatoes, these hecklers are trolls. Your statements are way more unsubstantiated than mine, because they are unsubstantiable.

:lol:

Let's see...you speak of those with AS as a "superior" offshoot of Homo Sapiens. You then speak of how horrible Nazis are.

Didn't Hitler speak of a master race? Is your rhetoric really any different?

Go ahead and tell me that that is unsubstantiated, and avoid the point I'm trying to make. ;)



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07 Oct 2007, 3:57 pm

This thread belongs in the Politics, Philosophy and Religion forum. I suggest in future, Peter_Grotticelli, that you post anything to do with Objectivism in there.


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07 Oct 2007, 4:01 pm

Shadexiii: Hitler wanted to kill people. I wouldn't even make you wear a "kick me" sign.

Quatermass: Thank you sah; I will move there now.


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07 Oct 2007, 4:06 pm

Somebody just earned a silencing script.

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07 Oct 2007, 4:06 pm

Peter_Grotticelli wrote:
Shadexiii:
When someone posits something, and then the hecklers throw tomatoes, these hecklers are trolls. Your statements are way more unsubstantiated than mine, because they are unsubstantiable.

Woodsman25:
I meant that 1/4 of the people I've seen so far are young, idealistic, and aspie. The alternative interpretation does not make any sense.

I use hyperbole, but I maintain that homo aspergus is beginning to speciate. For the group was always isolated, in the Pale and now in Israel.

I don't care what ye have to say about the Ashkenazim and AS; for the assocation is obvious to some, and anti-Semitic to others (even though AS is a favorable trait).


Jeeze... well it would be nice to say hello to ya, afterall you are a newbie and I always enjoy talking to people from my state (NY) but I must say you really are giving a bad impression, and its too bad.

I think if you took some time to actually read other topics and get to know this place better you may see that writing such stuff will result in a negative reception.

Its obvious to me that you think you are somehow superior to others on here, which is to bad cause this is a place of knowledge and appropriate conversation/debate, and people like you really I feel defeat the purpose of this place. This is probably the largest gathering of people that I am a part of and know of that all seem to have a strong level of intelligence, and sure you do to, but when you come in here and use this place wrong you certainly dont show it.

your definition of a troll is wrong, i should know cause I once did not know what they were eather, and now I do

And how does my 'alternative interperatation not make sence'? Is it my fault for not understanding what you said? Or is it your fault for not conveying your message in a way that wont cause people to respond positivly or understand ya?

Do you know what speciation is??? You only seem to have a vague understanding, i think you really should look this definition up. Not sure if you took ecology in collage, but I sure did (and got a 3.6) and tho you may have a vague understanding aspie currently does not mean seperate species.

You also suggest aspie is from the pale and Israel. I must say it looks as tho Aspie is all over, a statistical fraction of the human population, to say they originiated from these places is quite dumb.

Since you refuse to have a serious debate and because you refuse to not only back up what you say with evidence, but also refuse to accept you may be wrong and others may be right, their is no point in debate with you, because you always 'win' and everybody else looses in your mind, so good day!


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07 Oct 2007, 4:06 pm

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Shadexiii: Hitler wanted to kill people. I wouldn't even make you wear a "kick me" sign.


Hitler started with mere rhetoric. Everyone has to start somewhere.

And with that, I depart. now that this is in the land of PP&R, it is no longer in a place that I frequently check. Otherwise I fear I'd be hitting my head against the wall far too frequently.



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07 Oct 2007, 4:17 pm

I'm dashed; these crabby old men have rationally eviscerated me.

Psyche!


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07 Oct 2007, 4:23 pm

Peter_Grotticelli wrote:
I'm dashed; these crabby old men have rationally eviscerated me.

Psyche!


Less ad hominem attacks if you would, and more ideas discussion.

BTW, if you are a biochemist, why is your first thread on Ayn Rand and Objectivism?


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07 Oct 2007, 5:25 pm

I can't discuss ideas with these guys; next time I'll ignore them instead of attacking them.

I don't know much of biochemistry yet.


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07 Oct 2007, 5:54 pm

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The saddest part of all of this? Some of what you posted was quite good, but the taint of arrogance makes it hard to stomach any of it.
I've look into Objectivism as a way of life. But I found much of this arrogance and it turned me off.


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07 Oct 2007, 6:14 pm

Are ye happy being boring?


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