The_Chosen_One wrote:
It's up to the Christians to prove if their god or whatever exists, and failing that, which I know for a fact they cannot do, they are just pissing in the wind. skafather is right, it's all just a load of claptrap that people invented to stooge everyone into believing that there maybe something worth looking forward to after death. I may believe in reincarnation, but at least I don't force my view on it onto everyone and tell them being pagan is the one true way. So why the hell do Christians do that with their faith? I'll tell you why; it's because they are all insecure and that if they didn't believe that something is going to happen post-mortem, then they would be an even sadder bunch than they are already. Being paranoid about one's faith is a worse disease than not having any faith at all, because trying to convince others to believe in something that can't be proven, and worrying about the hereafter all the time really screws with your mind. At least those with no faith or those that don't worry what will happen won't have any problem with death; for once you die that's it. If anyone can show me definite prove of an afterlife then I might change my view, but until then, I will just live my life how I see fit, and let nature take its course.
Negative proof though is only proof that you can't say for sure that its really one way or another. In one respect though I do think its a great reason for all the conformity-loving fundamentalists and bible literalists to just shut up and keep it to themselves. It really means that while people should be in a position to follow their own ways and choose, deism, atheism, or agnosticism, that no group should be able to impinge on each other's civil rights - which tends to be the ultimate thing I think that most atheists seem to get real rabid about.
All the fundamentalists seem to complain that there are no morals in the world anymore, my solution - secular ethics, if you could teach kids from a young age about social cause and effect, long term good outweighing short term, and how altruistic action ultimately betters their own lives and is the most optimal - it wouldn't take Judeo-Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or other teachings of a specific religion to get people to do the right thing (and when people are that slow and basic to where they need something like Hell to coerce them to do the right thing - society should diss them for that sort of behavior rather than condoning it).